THROUGH EYES of FIRE SERIES #18
THE OTHER LAMB
BY: DANIEL YORDY
THE OTHER LAMB
There are two lambs in the Bible, not one. The second lamb is not incidental or peripheral. In fact, we find that the second lamb is more prominent in church history than the first. The second lamb is the other Main thing. If the second lamb did not exist, the beast would have no power in the church. Although outwardly the Lamb wages war with the Beast, inwardly, in our minds and hearts, in the womb of the church, the true Lamb wages a war of life or death against the other lamb. It is a war of faith.
We are transformed by the renewing of our minds. We are transformed as the true Lamb replaces the other lamb. Much of Jesus' effort during His ministry was to break the hold of the other lamb, the Pharisees' definition of God
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.
In John's vision, the “sea” pictures to us all non-Christians while the earth refers to nominal Christianity. The dividing line in the church for God is the altar of incense. Those who enter into the chastisement of God in the travail of the Spirit, He marks. Those who remain happy Christians will most certainly find blessing; they just won't enter into the Holiest at present. They remain, in the present season, as the earth.
A lamb's horns begin to grow around six months. Thus, the Passover lamb, at one year old, would have had horns a few inches long. Horns are common to male lambs, so the true Lamb also would have had horns. Yet these horns are mentioned, which means they are significant.
Two horns represent power. Have you ever seen two fully horned rams butt heads in full fury? I have not seen rams, but I have seen male goats do so. You would not want to stand between.
There are two kinds of power, the power of life and the power of death. On the two lambs, the horns look the same, but the one Lamb carries us into life, and the other drives into death.
Both lambs are Christ in the church. The one Lamb carries all for real; the other lamb is an image of Christ that has dominated Christianity since the passing of John.
But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.
“Nicolaitans” is a form of the Greek, nike, that is, overcome. It is interesting that the definition of God, of Jesus, of man, and of salvation that rules almost all Christianity is the Nicene Creed, nike, Nicolaitan, coming out of the church compromised under Constantine and defined under the influence of alcohol.
If the guy on the white horse, conquering and to conquer, is not Christ, then it likely refers in a significant way to Constantine and the definition of “the conquering” Christ that came into the church by him, that is Apollo, the sun god, the one who defeats his enemies by hacking them to pieces. In fact, having written already concerning this white horse fellow, I lean more now to seeing it as the Other lamb. That does not remove the truth I shared earlier.
This is a very realistic way to understand church history. Inside this same time period, as part of the same severe alteration of Christian understanding, the statute of Jupiter, the god of Rome, was given a new name, Peter. You can go to Rome today and see endless lines of Christians kissing the feet of Jupiter, the exact same piece of stone worshiped by the pagan Romans, yet these Christians call that piece of stone, Peter.
In the same way, Apollo, the sun god of the Greeks, was given a new name – Christ. Constantine, the Beast in that place at that time, needed the Nicene Christ in order to control the church.
The Nicene Creed presents to us the Nicolaitan Christ. On almost any Christian website that has a “What We Believe” page, you click on that page and you find the Nicene Creed.
You see, if you have arrived at a place where the great argument is between whether Jesus was God the Son, having taken human flesh on momentarily versus whether Jesus was a man who showed us a little bit of God, if that is your debate, you've already bought into the entire second lamb, the entire Nicolaitan Christ.
The Debate at the Nicene Council was a debate between Nicolaitans and Nicolaitans. Neither the debate nor any “side” has anything to do with us. God is not what they think.
There is only ONE picture and definition of God given to the entire universe: a Man laying down His life for His friends. We know Him only by placing ourselves utterly inside of Him all the way through.
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
There is a great human lust to turn these words into fodder for argument and debate. Those who do so already love the second lamb.
There is one way only by which we can know these words of Jesus. That is by knowing these following words of Jesus:
If you do not know these words, then don't let go of God until you do. We will never come to the end of knowing these words, therefore, we will never let go of God revealing Himself in us.
The Nicolaitan Christ is an image created by looking at, and thus engaging in debate over ideas. The true Lamb is known by looking out from, through eyes of fire, and thus the words –
That is the gospel according to Paul; it is the revelation of John. John 14:10 and John 14:20 are the same; they can never be separated.
Look through the Nicene Creed; make note of the severe separation between God and man, all the way through. The Nicene lamb defeats his enemies by hacking them to pieces. The true Lamb carries even His enemies inside Himself all the way into life.
The Nicene lamb's power is forehead only; in the end, he is a wimp. Yet this is the Superman “Christ” that most Christians look for to come. The true Lamb is real power, the power that turns enemies into friends, the power who arises from beneath of us and carries us in His tender arms all the way into life.
Man is the image and likeness of God; man is God revealed. God is known to us only by a Man, a Man laying down His life for His friends – AND WE ALSO. This is God; know Him.
Now, you can see that I am recasting what I shared in my series: The Kingdom Rising, particularly the chapters, Christ Versus Superman, Must We Repent of Augustine, Defining God and Man, The Weakness of God, and The Foolishness of God. I want to continue, here, attempting to re-cast this second lamb in the light of John's vision.
Let's position the battle. There are actually two battles going on simultaneously. One is the battle between the true Lamb and the false in the hearts and minds of believers, the second is the battle between the Lamb through us and the Beast regarding the inheritance, that is, possession of the earth. I have an upcoming article on the second called “The Battle.” The first battle is casting down the accuser; it is the battle of the lambs. Which lamb do you follow?
I have shared before that when I was 21 years old, I heard the words
“And they shall nourish her there”
Let's present the two foreheads just before they hit head on.
I will fight against them with the sword of My mouth
This is what I have written in every letter I send out.
The enemy has sown his word into the church, as Jesus said.
The truth of God is found all through Christian theology, but so are the words of the serpent,
Almost everyone I know who left the move of God, the fellowship of communities in which I once lived, threw out the truth right along with the lies. Most have completely forgotten the vision God once birthed in their hearts.
Almost everyone I know who discovers a new revelation in God that they had not known before, turns and attacks those verses they once regarded. That is, they don't attack the verses, they just attack those who imagine that those particular verses are actually God speaking. Those who believe that God's whole purpose for us in this life is judgment cannot even see any of the blessing verses in the Bible. Those who believe that God's whole purpose for us in this life is blessing cannot even see any of the judgment verses in the Bible.
There is one group of people only who are capable of ripping out the lies without harming one thing God speaks. They are the ones who live utterly and only inside of John 14:20, who eat of the tree of life, who tremble when God speaks in ALL that He speaks, who engage with God until He fulfills every single Word of Christ in their lives in all fullness. Those who say with Mary,
Those who call those things that be not as though they are. Those who have God in their mouths. Those who refuse to speak anything God does not speak. Those who speak all that He speaks as their very and only life.
Speak Christ. Some of you who read this still see yourself and speak of yourself as if you are other than Christ Jesus. Let the true Lamb win. Let His victory be finished.
You see, it's a simple equation. Either the Lamb carries us or the lamb commands us. The first is Salvation, the second is existential hopelessness. No matter how powerful, how assertive, or how anointed are those who preach a lamb commanding from the outside of us, they never, themselves measure up. Never. All fall short; all fail to achieve His glory. And here's the thing, in the end, the promoters of a lamb who commands are dishonest. They will never admit their failure to obey perfectly. And remember, if you disobey God just once, one little, tiny bit, you have disobeyed Him in all.
Command and control is the opposite of God's order, the opposite of the body of Christ.
All present human government operates under the full spectrum of command and control. It is the curse spoken by God, the certain outcome of drawing one's heart and mind away from Christ our life to a false self.
But here I do not want to speak of the Beast in the world, but of the other lamb in the church. And yes, science and technology does come into the human experience out of that other lamb. That's why science blesses and curses at the same time. That's why the same technologies that do so much good also do so much evil.
Suddenly, I am beginning to see the story of the scroll sealed with seven seals, the opening of those seals, and the seal of God upon His own, from Revelation 5:1 through 8:1 in a clearer light, though not all the way clear yet. The guy on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 sure looks like Christ, the problem is, he doesn't feel like Christ and that which follows certainly is not that which flows out of Christ.
Yet calling the guy on the white horse a coming “Antichrist,” that is, some future world dictator, does not describe any form of reality in the church.
Here is what we see. The Nicene Christ was established by imperial law in AD 325 (It was the Beast who commanded all to regard the Nicene Christ only, and actually killed those who would not). By AD 385 the first Christian was killed by other Christians (peace taken from the earth). That was the same year Jerome began his translation of the Bible into Latin, and the same year that Augustine began to write The City of God.
There are two definitions of Christ, two images of Christ, two lambs all the way down through church history. The problem is not antichrist, but Christ falsely defined. Almost all of Christianity regards the other lamb. Now, I wrote about the seals in my letter, “Overcome.” Yet, reading back, I don't see anything to change. We are walking up a path upon which we have never trod. Everything looks different to us every few feet up that path. Truth does not change, but our seeing does.
The guy on the white horse is not the antichrist, but Christ far above, Christ far away, Christ coming only some day, the Christ as most of Christianity has defined Him to be, and that image is, in the end, anti-Christ.
The chief characteristic of this Christ, this other lamb, is that He is far separate from the earth, far separate from our lowly, fleshy, sinful lives right now.
This is excerpts from a recent article,
When Jesus established the papacy, the gospels report that he told St. Peter:
When Benedict was elected to the papacy in 2005, I wept with joy that such a faithful custodian of the Church’s teachings and traditions and such a worthy bridge to Christ in heaven had been chosen by the cardinals... The Holy Spirit must have recognized all of this, as well, as He sent us Pope John Paul II, the rock star, to blaze a path where no pope had gone before – touching millions of youths with language they understood – and then He sent us Pope Benedict XVI, the lion of orthodoxy, to lay down the intellectual mechanisms for travels along that path. The path is the bridge to heaven. The way to travel upon it is personal sanctity. The first traveler is the Holy Father.
But some, like Benedict, are called to more than just personal sanctity. Benedict was called to carry a cross of personal sacrifice, as well... The essence of Jesus’s suffering was His decision to eschew the exercise of power and submit to His Father’s will... When Benedict decided that the mystical body of Christ needed another bridge to heaven, he, too, gave up power and glory that he, too, could easily have exercised and retained. He, too, searched his conscience in a supreme effort to elevate submission to divine will above personal preference.
Such a quiet, personal, Christ-like submission of the will is not the essence of a rock star; it is the essence of a Rock. Human salvation has been advanced immeasurably because the Church had both popes at its helm – each to complement the other in ways we could not have imagined.
Now, before anyone cries foul against the Pope, we must understand that the same reasoning underneath this view of the Pope is underneath almost all Christian view of Christ.
Right now, at this moment, Christ is absent from the earth. In His absence, He has assigned certain individuals to take His place in our lives. You can call them Popes or pastors, bishops or apostles, priests or elders, it makes no difference; we define all of them by the absence of Christ.
Everyone who speaks of the soon return of the Lord Jesus, His coming, define that Christ as one who is presently absent. As Preston Eby teaches so clearly in Looking for His Appearing
I was taught that the elders and apostles in the church stood in the place of Christ towards me and that their role in my life was to help me not follow my own wicked heart as it attempted to take me away from obedience to Christ. Thus I was required to submit to the elders and apostles as a whole as unto Christ if I desired to connect with the salvation of God being revealed in the earth.
This is no different from any Christian thought, any church thought
And from this same view and reasoning, the absent Christ has also given a measure of His authority to kings, to presidents, to human governments. They rule in the earth “by divine right,” (and not by the prince of this world).
And thus, this absent Christ rules by power over, a top-down hierarchy of command and control. “Know your place.” A sister wrote to me that her pastor recently told her that “by rebelling against my covering you have exposed yourself to demonic activity.”
“Do what I say or demons will get you.”
A brother wrote to me recently for my perspective on how to reply to a brother who sent him the following note:
Jesus was crucified Wednesday mid week; rose after 3 full days and full nights on Sunday... He breathed the Holy Spirit upon His disciples and ascended into heaven that Sunday evening taking Satan captive. He again appears to the disciples on various occasions until His final departure to heaven when He promises the Power of the Holy Spirit. The thousand years is not an exact 1000 years; it is metaphorical, representing a long extended period of time. Satan is in heaven condemning the Saints before God. He will be cast down to earth for a short time and earth's woes really begin. Jesus will return, the great Resurrection will take place of the Wheat and the Tares...
Here is my reply:
First, much of what he says are true facts held by him as knowledge. He obtains no life from them, but rather, uses them as debate points. The primary thing missing is the mystery of the gospel, Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Now, when I read your article, I see a true heart desire to know the Lord Jesus as He is in you. When I read this brother's words, I do not see such a thing. That desire may be there in his heart underneath of knowledge, but it is not the guide of his words.
As you well know, to most of our brethren, correct knowledge is everything, knowing Jesus as life inside is peripheral. "Jesus lives in my heart," is, for most, a cute Sunday School saying.
Although some of his facts may be "correct," yet they are seen out from a perspective that causes both the "not correct" stuff and the skewed understanding of the true facts. You see, facts are facts, but how we interpret them, where they fit in our scheme of things, is entirely dependent on what overall theory we apply. Because of that, discussing facts against facts is a waste of time, because you are speaking out from utterly conflicted theories.
Some might say, "Well, if God isn't speaking to the brother, then there's nothing you can say that would penetrate into his heart." And that can often be true. The problem with that "Calvinist" viewpoint, though, is that God is in you, in your words. God does move in power as you expect Him to, the Holy Spirit will attend your words. Yet allow them to move out from His seeing.
In one sense, theory gives answer to three specifics: motive, means, and opportunity. I realize I'm mixing science with jurisprudence, but it works. In fact, I like this. I will develop this further in later writing.
This brother's theory is 100% Augustinian, though he does not know that. In Augustinian theory, God's motive is to rescue a bunch of unworthy sinners and take them to an undeserved future in heaven in order to re-populate His heavenly city with worshipers. The means is something back then, someone up there, and something some day. Do you see how absent the Lord Jesus is from His body by this brother's facts? And the opportunity has two parts: 1. subscribe to correct doctrine and 2. attend the right church (be under the right authority structure).
Here is the theory that I teach.
Motive: God desires to be seen and known and touched by His creation through man, His image, through a company of sons, just like Jesus, the express image of the Father. Motive is the first part of theory, and thus, Romans 8:29 must be the most important verse in the Bible.
Means: A seed planted in the earth. Now, I kept that short, but it is very large - it contains all that Christ is. When we say "seed," we mean the metaphor of both kinds of seed, plant seed and human seed. The metaphor of a seed is what the entire Bible is written around from Genesis to Revelation. Every fact in the
The problem is that these two theories are mutually exclusive. No part of one can be found in the other. Yet they each gather into themselves the same facts. That's why most believers, coming across my writing, no matter how they might be drawn to particulars, facts they recognize, yet they end up bouncing off. There is no way they can buy into the theory I teach without letting go of all their Nicene theory. It requires a total transfer.
And that's why so much of what I write is an open and clearly defined assault against the Nicene theory. The facts will easily find their rightful place whenever a heart is truly won to Christ and to life.
So, let's look at the brother's facts. The narrative of the gospel places Jesus' death on Friday, not Wednesday. Jesus' words,
Then, the layout of Jesus' victory over Satan – you see how it is a series of disconnected events with no reference to a seed that must be planted. We can say, "Satan is fully defeated," AND "Satan will be fully defeated," both at the same time without contradiction. It is the same thing as holding one bean seed in one hand and many bean seeds in the other. This one seed was planted in the earth, it birthed a plant, out of which came these many seeds, just like the original one. The one defeating the accuser becomes the many defeating the accuser. In the brother's disjointed arrangement of facts, there is no place for the many coming forth as the one seed that birthed them.
And the someday coming of Christ as an event taking place apart from this brother requires that he be among those who weep in shame. Christ in us is our only hope of glory. Those who see Him outside of themselves weep. The false means of Nicene Christianity results in missed opportunity.
Opportunity requires bodies of weakness. When the bodies of weakness are no more, the opportunity ceases. Wow, this is a great way to explain things!
As I said, the unveiling of Jesus Christ is a path yet untrod. It is very much in my heart to share with you the path up which I am being led, thus I include my progression of thought. But I tell you what! I am excited about developing more fully this conflict between two theories of the gospel, the battle of the lambs.
The Lamb of God is never absent from the earth. He is here now in all ways in all fullness, walking this earth in His body, as us. This is the mystery, the secret, and when He is unveiled, He will catch all of His enemies utterly unawares. But that's coming up in “The Battle.” When I write six articles at the same time, I have to be sure I put things in the right letter.
This letter is about the other lamb. Both lambs are found in a church. In fact, we can understand the other lamb as we go back and forth between him and his church. Let's attempt to define both, though we will investigate the other lamb's woman in a later article.
Let's re-iterate the theory of Nicene Christianity; we are describing the Nicene Christ. All of this takes place inside of separation; all of it comes out of the tree of knowledge.
Motive: God's motive is to rescue a bunch of unworthy sinners and take them to an undeserved future in heaven in order to re-populate His heavenly city with worshipers.
Inside this motive, image, then, has become thus: since God is a self-conscious Person, so we are self-conscious persons, higher than the animals. As Aquinas said, “Hence it is according to his intelligence and reason that man is said to be according to the image of God.” In other words, we are the image of God because we eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, right and wrong, because we are independent and isolated persons.
Inside the woman, the response to this motive is the telling of a very different story. It requires the creation of eternal torment, an idea not found in the first two hundred years of Christian thinking. It requires the creation of a far-away heaven as our eternal “home,” where we will float in bliss forever. Oh how the story was twisted by the Nicene Christ. I must write more on it than the space in this letter allows.
Means: The means is something back then, someone up there, and something some day.
God accomplishes His purposes in the earth by sending God the Son into something abnormal for God, a momentary clothing of human flesh, in which Jesus was punished for sin, that is, God the Father unleashed all of His hatred and anger for sin against God the Son. This Jesus is now far away from man, far away from this earth, looking down from afar, yes, but also begging God not to punish us. Someday, far in the future, this same Jesus will come back to earth to punish all sinners, that is, all those who failed to take advantage of the opportunity. He will also reward those who did correctly take advantage of the opportunity.
Inside the woman, then, the response to this means of God is, to put it quite bluntly, idolatry. She “deifies” this far-away “savior.” That is, she puts him high on a pedestal in her imagination and grovels before him. She turns the apostles into demigods and the Bible into magic. She worships the saints. She worships the crucifix. She wails over the passion of the Christ. And I am not just speaking of Catholics. Deifying the King James Version of the Bible is identical to any Catholic worship of saints. Deifying the modern nation of Israel is the same, as is pledging allegiance to flags and killing people for Jesus, that is, praying for the troops.
You see, the evangelical, the charismatic, and the deeper truth church has approached the true life of Christ, yes. But they allow the present salvation of Jesus to find its place ONLY inside a Nicene Christ; they define everything by the same definitions as the Catholics. Even many who teach union see union as with a Nicene Christ.
Opportunity: The opportunity has two parts: 1. subscribe to correct doctrine and 2. attend the right church (be under the right authority structure).
These two things often go hand in hand. To the Catholics, correct doctrine is to mouth agreement with the Pope, and to partake of the Sacraments. At the same time, being under the “covering” of the priest who administers the Sacraments is essential. Yet Protestant opportunity is only different in appearance, not in substance. For most evangelicals, correct doctrine IS the Nicene Creed. “Be sure to go to church” is also essential.
And it is true, if you differ from the Nicene Creed on any point, you are considered lost by most Christians I know, no matter how much you think you trust in Jesus.
In the woman opportunity always takes the form of human works, of human righteousness, of man walking the path of atonement himself. In the move of God, it was “perfect obedience,” the same old same old. At the same time, the terrible threat of “the life of Jesus manifest in our mortal flesh” must be eliminated. Thus the flesh is turned into the enemy, utterly evil and down-pulling.
Part of Nicolaitan is the sharp division between ministry and laity, victory over the laity. The ministry have an in with God, the laity are utterly fleshy and under the control of Christ ONLY by obeying the ministry in all things. This attitude is actually more pronounced in deeper truth circles than anywhere besides Catholicism. I see now that there were a number of things in the move, the fellowship I was a part of for many
I heard the Nicene Christ proclaimed at church just a few weeks ago. “Jesus IS coming back.” And through those words came the iron of savage separation. It is the battle of the lambs. All of the facts of the Bible and of the gospel are found in both lambs. (Except that the Nicene lamb will not touch the two most important verses of the Bible and utterly limits and waters down the other seven.) Yet all the facts of the Bible and of the gospel are arranged in an entirely different order from one Lamb to the Other.
You see, here is the problem in full. No one believes that we are the body of Christ.
Everyone has been fooled by the Master Military Strategist of the universe. He has a purpose up His sleeve, a purpose more wonderful and glorious than we can imagine.
God is filled with hope; we are His hope.