AFTER DINNER CONVERSATION
BY: FRED PRUITT
SEPTEMBER 13, 2005
I was going through my “waiting to be sent folder” this morning and found this below. I could find no record that I’d sent it, and though maybe I did, here it is again, if so. Starts out with a little technical speculation for a few paragraphs (which you can skip but I left in just in case somebody might be interested).
Dear John and Luli,
Just wanted to thank you for the great evening of food and talking. I think we covered about everything but the thing that I loved the most that got said somehow was that there is only room in the universe for God and no other. Someone uttered some sentence like that. What a sentence!
I was thinking along the lines of what else we discussed, about creation or reality unfolding out of consciousness, or imagination in some sense, and while to some that might sound scandalous, when you really consider things in their depth there is no doubt that the very basis of the material universe is immaterial, or at least no material as we can perceive it.
Our John came by after John B dropped me off, and I went to the store with him and waited outside while he shopped, looked at the moon and all the activity in the Kroger parking lot. For some reason I saw that individual things are all forms of thought, and while that might seem a strange concept to some, how much stranger is that than to believe than at the sub-basis of physical reality are nothing but waves? Waves? What are waves? What are the waves made of if everything is made of them?
I don’t ask that particularly scientifically, because my mind goes about that far and it breaks. I have tried and tried to read Stephen Hawkings’ book and I go along fine for a while and then he just completely loses me. But I get the point I need from it.
The physical, temporal, is a dim reflection of the non-physical, eternal, and to the physical world the spiritual world is as nothing. It is the actual reality out of which this world springs, but nothing of this world can perceive it. It has no mass, weight, density, height, length, depth, according to any measurement of this world. And we say, actually Colossians says that “by Him all things consist,” which means, if we believe it, and I do, that the ACTUAL reality out of which this reality mysteriously appears and sustains is a Living Word which is the ONLY REALITY there is. All that exist exists in God and He is All in all.
We interjected that “With the pure thou wilt show thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt show thyself froward.” (Ps 18:26)
I questioned that later, in the light of God being the Only One Who fills His Universe – and everything “else” (i.e. anything, ANYTHING, which is manifest, on some level visible or perceptible) is in some form an expression of Him. This is outside the questions of freedom and predestination and good and evil and any opposites. All of those realities are swirling around in the cosmos and in some form or another all are true, or at least are able to come to perceptible reality and prove themselves, which is probably not necessarily a good measure of truth.
Lately I’ve been thinking about some statements like, “A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee,” (Ps 91:7) and others statements like them. What a promise, if you believe it!
But c’mon, isn’t that another “too good to be true” thing? How can we claim such a thing, and live without any sort of fear of tripping up or “dashing our foot against a stone.”
Well, since the devil used that scripture on Jesus and Jesus’ reply was “Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God,” it has been prevailing thought ever since that no one could lay claim to such security – maybe for “salvation and eternal destiny,” but certainly NOT for everyday hanging around. I don’t know about you guys, but my foot is bruised from tripping so much, so it’s hard for me to get my mind around a thought like, “A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.” Who am I to expect such a thing? How could “I” be worthy to live unscathed when all the others seem to be falling out all over the place beside me?
And yet out of the clear purity there it is, and you know the Word has been spoken for You, and that He is the Author of Fulfillment, and we have no debt whatsoever toward its fulfillment, because He has declared it, and sent it forth by You, and nothing shall, will, can, in the least harm you. Nothing can harm you. You will walk in the midst of battle and not be harmed. Because all is from the Father and sent by Him who is only Benevolence and Grace and Mercy.
In Jesus Christ the Word IS made flesh, and now by His Spirit the Word is made flesh in us, and we walk as He walks, and who has anything to contradict that? Who is it that says there is something out there to watch out for that can harm us? Who denies the promises of God to those who believe? Haven’t we left that behind? Wasn’t that the good and evil tree, the law contained in ordinances, which was nailed to the cross? Who now says the Sons of God are not free in their righteousness? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect?
Well, it just makes the fire burn brighter.
I cannot fathom it. I do not fathom good and evil as I did before. I only know the One God. Known to us in God the Son given for us and enlivened in us by His Spirit; coming as the wind, coming as water, coming as heartache, coming as all things. That’s all I see. I don’t see that other thing. I have no perception of it.
If somebody wants me to see something else I won’t do it. There is nothing else there to me. Just the One God, manifesting Himself everywhere I look. Sometimes I have to gulp to say it, but it’s the heart of real praise. And that is the praise He inhabits, not some fakey work of the flesh, but the praise of the heart that casts its crown into the midst of the throne, where the Lamb dwells. I just don’t know anything else, and don’t want to know anything else.
Does anybody really BELIEVE “they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk, and not faint”? (Is 40:31) Or is it just a song? Isn’t that the total freedom from fear and condemnation and mistakes and trip-ups and screw-ups and wrong decisions and right decisions to actually BELIEVE that the Living Lord God IS EXCLUSIVE in us, that He’s a BIG HOG and has taken ALL of US, by that I mean each of us individually, He has taken the ALL of us! (There’s your sanctification process for you.) BODY SOUL SPIRIT! He’s got it all!
What’s left? How are “we” going to “help God” do the job of making us Christ-like? How long do we keep that up and expect others to do their part to become Christ-like? What “we” is there that could help God do anything? What “we” is there that would have the foggiest idea what would be the “Christ-like/Loving” thing to do in any given situation? How would we know what was the exact right thing to do? I have discovered I haven’t even the capacity for even that. Not only I cannot, I understand not. I’m like Sergeant Shultz, “I KNOW nussing!”
And that’s the only side of things I know. I remember what it was like, sort of, to be on the “other side,” but even that’s hard to relate completely to being on the “other side,” since while I do have a Damascus-road sort of day to refer to when I knew my salvation, like Paul I also know God “separated me from my mother’s womb,” and has “thought” of me eternally, so it’s hard to make that demarcation mark in my life to be outside God, though I did pass from darkness to light and it was, from my part, as extremely noticeable as were the scales which fell from Paul’s eyes in about the same length of time, but to me now all that went before it was redeemed and made holy in the blood, since all the earth and the heavens are made new, and that is all things.
So there is no condemnation from me toward me for my former life, even though like everyone else I did things of which I am rightly ashamed, but all that is clean and new as a newborn babe and likewise is the whole world when seen through the new eyes and viewed from the new heart. Instead of a world with lack and wrong and fear and uncertainty there is instead a pulsating, ever alive creation which is filled from electron to molecule, from planet to star to galaxie, from molecule to quarks and on down to vibrating strings, with nothing but the Living God All in all of that and it is He Who is Love and Mercy and Grace and as William Law says, maybe my favorite phrase of all, He is “The Eternal Will to All Goodness.”
Check out that word “WILL.” The Eternal “I WILL” to goodness. PURPOSE. DRIVE. FULFILLMENT. I WILL TO ALL GOODNESS. That is HIS WILL, HIS DETERMINED PURPOSE FROM ETERNITY IS NOTHING BUT GOODNESS!
So by grace through faith we are found in Christ, and by Him we DARE to believe, that He does not fail, we shall run and not be weary, walk and not faint, and though a thousand fall by our side, ten thousand at our right hand, it shall not come nigh thee, chosen of God, and wisdom is justified of her children. And I believe we will see the fruit, and we will gather harvest, and it will be the harvest of the Love of God, and there will be (and now is) no restraint on Joy and Gladness.
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