BY: LINDA KEITH
NOVEMBER 25, 2006
THE OLD MAN, THE FLESH MAN
A friend of mine was talking to another friend of mine, and this second friend started calling me, “Dove”. I loved the new name immediately. When I was a teenager, I was called “Little White Dove” Being part Cherokee, I loved the name because it was given to me by a very wise Cherokee man, that traveled around with my Dad’s Dad. And I had not been called that name since leaving Kentucky, and I just enjoyed it when it was brought up again. Why? I am not really sure. I had some ideas as to why I liked that name, but didn’t know, until at least, a week later.
l love the fact that the dove is known as a bird of peace; but, that’s not the only reason I liked this name. It was a week later that I attended a bible study, and during that bible study I KNEW that I was to share the “dove message” with all of you.
At the bible study, they were studying the Book of Genesis. Nothing deep, just a way, I think, to get those who belong to this bible study, to read the bible. As we were reviewing some facts, found in Genesis, we came to this scripture:
Gen. 8:12, “And he (Noah) stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned unto him any more.”
In the above scripture, this was the 3rd time that Noah had released the dove. We are told about the first 2 times he released the dove in:
Gen. 8:6-12, “And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made; And he sent forth a raven which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground. But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth; then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. And he stayed yet other seven days: and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark. And the dove came in to him in the evening; and lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth”.
God has always worked with me, in the number “3”.
There is such a beautiful picture here of the Finished Work of God!! Which we will get into, but, right now I want to look at the dove.
Now, Noah sent her out 3 times. The number 3, represents, witness, Divine Perfection, and completion. (Acts 10:40, 2:24). Whenever I see the numbers, 3, 7, 8, I pay close attention. All three numbers represents perfection and the new day. This is upon us now.
But, the 3rd time that Noah sent the dove out, he did not see her again. (Gen 8:12) As I read that, a couple of things came into my thinking. (Adam and the deep sleep, Jesus’ baptism, and the old man dying). Let’s look at these, one at a time.
Throughout the bible the dove is spoken of again, but, the verses do not say it was SEEN again. But there is a scripture that DOES speak of a SEEING of the dove.
Luke 3:21-22, “Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also being baptized and praying, the heaven was opened. And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.”
We are not told, right out, that the dove was seen, BUT someone had to have seen the dove, because he wrote this verse. We know that in the Old Testament, the Spirit appeared as whatever He wanted to be seen as. Now, it is here that God calls Jesus, His Beloved Son. What is the Kingdom of God made of? Love, Joy and PEACE! The shoulders represent the government of God. PEACE landed on the “government of God”, or the shoulders of Jesus. That little white bird represented the Kingdom of God. The color, white, reminds me of the Book of Revelation, where God is being described.
Rev 1:13-14, “And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one LIKE UNTO the Son of man, clothed with a garment down in the foot and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were as a flame of fire….”
Notice where this WHITE WOOL was. It was on this person’s HEAD. The head speaks of the MIND and the WHITE wool like hair, represents a covering of the Mind. White represents, PURITY. This speaks of a Mind that is Pure. We will put all that we will talk about together, later on.
A friend of mine shared something with me that speaks something of a parable to me. He said, “When I was younger I use to hunt doves (as a hunter does with a gun). And he said that one time he shot a dove, and when he went to get it, tears were flowing from its eyes, and he heard the dove crying. This parable that I see, in this story, is this: I see Jesus weeping, as He asked for forgiveness of those who crucified Him. This friend told me that he hasn’t hunted doves since then. Someone also told me that the dove is the only bird that sheds tears and cries.
The dove was “seen” descending on the shoulders of Jesus as the Holy Spirit. The dove is special. In the Book of The Song of Solomon we see something special that LOVE is being talked about.
Song of Solomon 1:15, “Behold, thou art fair, my love: behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves’ eyes.”
In this verse, “my love”, in the original writing is “my COMPANION”. If you search this word “companion” out,
The word “fair”, means beautiful. I believe that this is speaking of the Spirit that we are. Beauty is not always in the physical. A NATURE of BEAUTY is SEEN in a person, especially one who is in a UNION. A ONENESS. When we are one with a person, we SEE the beauty INSIDE this person. This is Who we are in, I AM. ONE.
“Thou hast doves’ EYES”. Eyes speak of how we see, how we behold others. Are we seeing others as I AM sees them? Or are we seeing faults? We WILL SEE WHAT WE LOOK FOR! When we see with doves’ eyes, we see the beauty of people’s true Identity. The way we see people brings change in that people. “Without a VISION, my people perish”. What vision are we carrying with us? HIS or the vision that the carnal minds tells us, about others? Whose vision is TRUE, HIS or the things the carnal mind sees?
I want to show you how the dove THINKS. She thinks as her Love thinks. And her Love is thinking as His dove thinks. BOTH are becoming ONE. Seeing alike. Thinking alike. BEING alike AS ONE.
Song of Solomon 5:1-2, “I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.”
This is what is happening today. We have been asleep, but now our heart (mind) is awakening. Awakening to our true Identity. The “locks represent the hair. The hair is the COVERING of the HEAD. Our covering is HIM. We are awakening to the truth of Who and What we really are. The drops of the night is leaving our thinking, our KNOWING. And we are being seen as HE is seen; and He is being seen as us. We are realizing that we ARE UNDEFILED! As HE is, so are we. His image is manifesting ONENESS. The precious dove is being seen.
The next part will be on Adam and the deep sleep.
Gen. 8:6-12, “And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made; And he sent forth a raven which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground. But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth; then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. And he stayed yet other seven days: and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark. And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark. And the dove came in to him in the evening; and lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth”. And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.”
Gen. 2: 21, “And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept:…..”
In both of these scriptures I see something really similar.
We see, in Genesis 8, that Noah sent forth, first, a raven.. This bird went to and fro UNTIL the waters were dried up from off the earth. And in Gen 2, we see that Adam went to sleep and are told NO WHERE in the bible that Adam ever awoke from that sleep. While he slept, who led the show? Why Eve of course! Who could be pictured as the RAVEN. And what did she do? She went to and fro, in the earth. But then we see the beauty of the dove. Just as the dove returned with the olive (anointing) leaf, the soul is with her husband, and the raven is seeing as the dove.
I see the dove as representing the Holy Spirit, here. We see this dove, RE-TURNING with an olive leaf in her mouth. It would appear to be that the “female” is having a change in her MOUTH. WORDS! Truth came out of the mouth of the dove, to allow Noah to know that there was land. Good News!! And NOW, Eve (our soul) is being delivered of the words she has been speaking to us, throughout all these 2000 yrs!! Wonderful news!! BUT, guess what? This wonderful news, these NEW words that our soul is speaking, is simply REMEMBRANCE!! OUR remembrance of our FIRST ESTATE!!
I like the way a sister on my study list shared with me, a way of saying this wonderfully: “Actually, the dove that was released in Noah’s time (so to speak) as assurance of the Christ (Land, Salvation) finally landed on the shoulder of Jesus Christ–a symbol of Salvation, etc. It had been air–born (in Spirit) until that time. I just love that notion.”
It HAS BEEN FINISHED since God put His plan into action. It is NOW coming into manifestation. Salvation, COMPLETE SALVATION, Spirit, Soul and Body. I AM’s FULL MANIFESTATION on earth.
PS 6:5, “For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall thee thanks?”
Until our awakening, we were in death. There was NO REMEMBRANCE of our true Identity. The grave that we were in is the earthly thinking. The dirt had covered our remembrance. Just as the covering of “the white wool” is the pure thinking of God. And when the written word said, “My thoughts ARE NOT your thoughts”, it was talking about with the carnal thinking, and those thoughts ARE NOT HIS THOUGHTS!
Malachi 3:16-17, “They that feared the Lord spake often one to another; and the Lord hearkened and heard it, and A BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.”
What are we? An EPISTLE!! NOT WRITTEN WITH INK!! And what is happening? OUR REMEMBRANCE IS COMING FORTH. We are reading our own book and so is everyone else, reading it! These that are speaking one to another, is the SPIRIT that we are, communing with one another, it is THEN that HIS THOUGHTS HAVE BECOME our thoughts, as ONE THINKING.
And this word, “my jewels” is really, “my special treasure”. This special treasure is HIS LIFE AS US AND US AS HIM. And this “leaf” in the dove’s mouth is actually, HEALING WORDS! Healing of the nations. Not speaking healing, but, calling forth the healing that has been ours. We keep asking for healing, and He has told us, “by his stripes we ARE healed”. We haven’t been seeing the healing, because our focus has been on the wound. We don’t have to CREATE a healing, what we have to do is call forth that healing that has been in the Finished Work of God. Call forth the manifestation of the Finished Work. And see the healing, not the wound. This healing is the healing for all things. The manifestation is the showing of HIM and His plan. This manifestation is the SEEING of HIM, in all things. We HAVE no need; we lack NOTHING. We ARE ALL THAT HE IS! John 1:16, “Of HIS FULLNESS have we ALL RECEIVED.” Hear this folks! We won’t receive His fullness in the future, WE HAVE IT NOW!! If we didn’t, He would not have told us this. HE CANNOT LIE!! When people say, that is for the future, they say it, if they would be honest with themselves, because they don’t BELIEVE. And the reason they don’t believe, is because their focus is in the natural, not the Spirit.
I have said this a thousand times; His word is true, whether we understand it or not, does not change the truth of it. Instead of just saying, “I can’t explain it, I don’t understand it, but; regardless, IF HE SAID IT, IT IS TRUE!!” The understanding IS IN YOU, it will come forth when we stop trying to change the understanding into WHAT WE THINK!!
Remember the raven that was first released by Noah? Well, just as the soul is in UNION with her husband, the raven has come to look as a dove!! HIS WORK IS FINISHED! And this is what is coming forth, into manifestation TODAY! The raven has and is playing a major role in HIS coming forth and being seen. Thank God for the raven!! Adam has awakened and is now back where he was brought forth from. For out of death, life comes.
Don’t listen to me or anyone else!! Listen to what His Words tell you and regardless if you understand them now or not, KNOW that His Words are truth; and TRUTH CANNOT BE CHANGED!! If He tells you something is beautiful and your eyes and carnal mind tells you that, that thing is ugly as “sin”, SEE THE BEAUTY of the thing. IF HE tells you that something is WHITE, and your eyes tells you that it is BLACK, SEE IT THE WAY HE SEES IT!! It will all come to your KNOWING and YOUR EXPERIENCING OF IT.
It is time to renew your mind and reset your focus. HE WILL NOT DO IT FOR YOU!! He is resting from HIS WORK!! (Gen 2: 3, John 17:4). HE tells US, RENEW YOUR MIND, He does not tell us, I WILL renew your mind. Now, understand this, IT IS NOT MAN RENEWING THE MIND, IT IS THE TRUE IDENTITY BRINGING FORTH THE REMEMBRANCE of Who and What we are. I use to wonder, “how did that dove find her way back to Noah? I know now that is was by “imprint on her mind”. Same as with us. We have been SIGNED, SEALED and DELIVERED. We are on our way home.
Just as the dove was not seen of Noah after the third time he released it, it APPEARED, lighting on the shoulders (government) of Jesus. I AM is being seen, again, APPEARING AS US AND US AS HIM, in this present arrangement. As He is, so ARE we. There is no “us and Him”, it only HIM.
In the next and last part, we will be looking at “the old man”.
THE OLD MAN, THE FLESH MAN
This will be the conclusion to our thinking on The Dove. As I said, we will be looking at the “old man” or “the flesh man”.
A lot of people are under the impression that “someone named Adam” lived in us, before we accepted Jesus as our Savior. We need to lose all of our religious thinking and face Truth and Reality, on this subject.
First of all, “the flesh man” or “the old man” is and was not a person. It was OUR MIND. Our thinking before and after it was regenerated, awakened, if you will.
Romans 6:3-6, “Know ye not, that so many of us were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the lidness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection. KNOWING this, that OUR OLD MAN IS CRUCICIFED with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.”
Now, to first RECOGNIZE “our old man, our flesh man”, we MUST KNOW WHO WE TRUELY ARE, NOT WHO WE WILL BE.
Genesis tells us this.
Genesis 1:27, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them”
Heb 13:8, “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever.”
Now we know that Jesus was God in the flesh. (1Tim 3:16).
John 8:58, “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM.”
EX 3:13-15, “And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER, and this is MY MEMORIAL UNTO ALL GENERATIONS.”
Now if you allow the Spirit to talk to you, you will recognize that JESUS WAS GOD in the flesh. (IS 9:6). And has been WHOEVER HE WILL BE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, (as we know time) We CAME OUT OF HIM, Made up OF HIM. So WHO ARE WE? We are HIM and He is US. So knowing this, we ask, “well how can I be the way I am at times? Not showing forth HIM, but instead showing forth what we have been taught, as sin? This is where the “old man or the flesh man” comes into play.
You see, when we lower our mind, our focus, to the thinking of the natural mind, we no longer are ONE WITH HIM. We cause a separation between Him and us. But, when our focus is ON HIM, then we are ONE WITH HIM. We ARE ALWAYS ONE WITH HIM, but we allow our thinking or our focus to drop down to where we see Him AND us. There is ONLY HIM. When we allow our thinking or our focus to drop back down to this natural realm, and that includes RELIGIOUS THINKING, then we have resurrected the “old man, the flesh man”. And we walk in that resurrection until our focus is back where it is meant to be at all times. I know that not many preachers will agree with me, but that is not my concern. They say the “old man” cannot be resurrected, but Lazarus was, wasn’t he? And Lazarus saw death AGAIN!
We have been shown so much that we have overlooked THE MIND. We are told that we HAVE the Mind of Christ. We are told to RENEW OUR MIND. We are told that we HAVE RECEIVED HIS FULLNESS. Now, these words were not given to us, just for reading material. THEY ARE TRUE!! We have been taught that we WILL HAVE these things when we get to “heaven”. Well, BE-LOV-EDs, heaven is a state of being, not a place somewhere up in space. Aren’t we told that we ARE seated in the heavenies? Did we leave planet earth? Just OUR MINDS left it. When we are in the heavenies, the “old man” is in the realm of DEATH, the natural. He cannot be resurrected in heaven. Heaven is BETWEEN YOUR EARS!!
When our MIND is in the heavenlies, we are like THE DOVE!! The dove is a creature that is married to ONLY ONE MATE FOR LIFE!! When she finds the LOVE OF HER LIFE, she never leaves him Or is ever joined to another. If her mate dies, she remains alone. The difference is that OUR MATE CAN NEVER DIE!! She isn’t like the other birds One day with this one, the next day with another. She is COMMITTED TO THAT ONE MATE, THE LOVE OF HER LIFE!! This is how we really are, in God’s Reality. But, not in the natural reality. The natural is an illusion of the natural mind. Opposite of what is God’s reality.
When we think of the dove, what is the first thing that comes to mind? PEACE. ANYTHING that is PEACE is of (out from within) the God mind. Anything that is not peace, regardless of how sensible it sounds, IS NOT OUT OF THE GOD MIND. (EPH 4:3)
EPH 4: 4, “There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE hope of your calling.”
Now in this natural realm, we see each other as different from everyone else. But, in God’s Mind, we all make up that ONE BODY. HIS BODY. There is ONE Spirit. That very Spirit that we came forth from in Genesis 1:27. We have been taught that there is a spirit of greed; a spirit of lust; a spirit of this and a spirit of that, but TRUTH tell us that THERE IS ONE SPIRIT. STOP TRYING TO CAST OUT SPIRITS, there are none to cast out!!! That was the excitement of Pentecost! Try putting the word, “attitude” in place of all those “spirits” and you will see it as truth. It all comes from OUR MIND. Either we are thinking with the natural mind or we are thinking with the God Mind. If you are seeing more than ONE SPIRIT, then you are thinking with the natural mind. I am sorry if that bursts some bubbles, but beloveds that is the truth.
EPH 5:5, “ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL who is above all and THROUGH ALL, AND IN YOU ALL!!”
As I ask when I was in Nigeria, can God and the devil or evil spirit live where God lives? The answer here is the same answer that I received in Nigeria, NO!!! Can attitudes live where God lives? YES, IF we allow ourselves to lower our mind. This is why we are told to take captive, our thoughts.
EPH 4:10, “He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above ALL heavens, that he might fill all things.”
This word, “fill” means, “fulfill”. Now think on this. We were brought forth out of God, in His image. What is God? He is a Spirit. This means SO ARE WE (remember He NEVER CHANGES, and neither do we, or have we. ONLY THE MIND HAS CHANGED!) Ok, we DESCENDED into this natural realm. WE ARE THE SAME THAT ASCEND UP FAR ABOVE ALL HEAVENS!! WE FULFILL ALL THINGS when we are thinking with the God Mind.
Rev 1:4, “…Grace be unto you, and peace, form him WHICH IS, AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME….”
This is US beloveds!! We are ONE with I AM!! We have NEVER changed from what we were brought forth by God. He can’t change, and neither did we. THE THINKING CHANGED, ONLY!! NOTHING CAN CHANGE TRUTH, NOTHING~~ You say, “How can you say we are Him?” Well look for yourself.
John 1: 16, ” …OF HIS FULLNESS HAVE ALL RECEIVED!!”
Are you hearing this with open ears? HIS FULLNESS HAVE WE ALL RECEIVED!! NOT WILL RECEIVE!! It is only the “old man’s” thinking that tells you that IF you had His fullness, why are you like you are sometimes? It’s because you ARE LISTENING TO THE OLD MAN’S THINKING. The old man’s thinking will tell you, “I don’t know if she is right or not, I haven’t found all this in the bible.” But, what does the Spirit tell us?
John 5:39, “Search the scriptures: for IN THEM ye THINK ye have eternal life; and they are they which testify of me. YE WILL NOT COME TO ME, that ye might have life.”
Search the scriptures IS NOT a suggestion; it is giving you correction! People THINK that the scriptures can give them life. BUT, aren’t we told that the written Word is DEAD LETTER? He goes on in His correction, YOU WON”T COME TO ME!! What is He? HE IS SPIRIT! And the DEAD LETTER is ONLY given life BY THE SPIRIT!!
Beloveds, YOU ARE THAT SPIRIT!! Remember, THERE IS ONLY ONE SPIRIT. You came from that Spirit, and that Spirit, YOU, or God CANNOT CHANGE FROM WHAT WE ARE!! When we think differently, we are thinking with the old man’s mind, and it is an ILLUSIONAL way of thinking!! If we think that we can do anything we want and say, “well if I am doing it, it is God doing it”, then we are thinking with the OLD MAN’S MIND, THE FLESH MAN’S MIND. And when we are thinking with the old man’s mind, we are RIGHT BACK IN THE LAW OF REAPING AND SOWING!! When we think with the Mind of God, there is ONLY PEACE, JOY, LOVE, COMPASSION, CAREING, RIGHTEOUSNESS, and COMPLETION!! We ARE THES THINGS IN GOD’S REALITY, but, if we are not thinking with His mind, we are in the OLD MAN’S REALITY, which is a lying ILLUSION.
So, I hope this will help to understand, the OLD MAN and the NEW CREATURE who is ONE WITH I AM.
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