The subject of this Seed is what was in God’s mind and in God’s thoughts, and the manifestation of those things.  We don’t know what God is thinking until he manifests it. The manifestation of God’s thoughts begins with his word.  The word is a creative function and forms are created.  


When Paul was writing his epistles (Ephesians, Colossians and Philippians), he used the phrase, “The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”  He mentions five names in that phrase. The first one is God, which is the unknown, untouched, untouchable, invisible presence and source of all things that no one can ever understand – not even his Son and his sons.  The manifestations appeared because of what God did with his word.  When the Son appeared, then there is a designation of father.  A man is never called a father until a son appears.  Actually, the son declares the father.  However, to reveal what the son is, and his purpose, then the father reveals the son.  The scripture teaches us that only the father knows the son and to whom he will reveal him, and only the son can know the father.   


The God-head includes at least seven names if you include the Holy Spirit and the Word.  We don’t have a three-person God.  We don’t have an any-person God. We are going to study some verses that very plainly declare that there is a pre-selection, a pre-election, and a pre-conceived purpose of God, not only with material things and creation, but also with those that are going to respond to the Gospel.    


In John 17:24, Jesus said, “I came to declare your name.”  He uses the word Father, which is the correct name for a son to use. All of the names, except the word God itself, are explanatory of his character, but the names of father and son begin to define the relationship.   


John 17:24, “Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, be with me where I am.”  Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever as the word-manifested Son of God. Where Jesus said, “I am” – that is a manifestation of the word.  When he said, “I am the way, the truth, the life, and the resurrection,” – it was always the fact, to God, that he was these things to man.  We begin to identify with that when we understand our purpose of being; that we are called into the same relationship with God as the Son was. 


Jesus never chose anyone except those he accepted from whom the Father had given him.  There are no volunteers and no one appoints them self as God or decides to be a Christian.  From the very inception, this has all been the work of God who made us.              


Continuing in John 17:24, “…that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me:  for thou lovest me before the foundation of the world.”  That means the Son, in the form of the word, had to be there before the disruption of the world.  The King James Version uses the word ‘foundation.’  All of the verses I am using relate to the beginning. The Greek word is katabolet.  It basically means setting up something that was different from what was there.  Or, it means the casting down of what was there, or the disposition to do something else.  These words have been translated to mean disposition, a confounding, and to throw down or cast down.  In all these verses, God had an order, and a rule, and a purpose in his mind.  This rule was disrupted, cast down, and there was a disposition to do something else.  A power persuaded man to listen to the things of creation and the activity of the flesh rather than the word of God.  There were some other difficulties because all offspring of Eve came after she had sinned and all of the offspring of Adam came after he had partaken in the sin. Every human being came after man had sinned and died.  All of the human progeny are born into a realm of sin and separation from God.    


Continuing on in John 17: 24, Jesus said, “…For thou lovedst me before the disruption of the world.”  Creation, the world, the heavens, and the people are all crammed into what we call the world.  It seems that people haven’t isolated these truths.  I hear people talking about the world, the ages, the heavens, the earth, the sea, the kingdom, the creation, the cross, and the crucifixion.  I’m always discerning - at least of my own ability – asking where are they coming from?  Which world are they coming from?  Where are they dwelling in their consciousness? Are they dwelling in the sea, in the heavens, or in the earth?  Do we understand about the crucifixion – that it was since the disruption of the world?  We are going to understand some of these things as we go along.  Hopefully you will lend your mind not only to what I say, but to what the Spirit is saying, which is that there is a famine in the world today.   


God loved his Son, Jesus the Christ, as we came to know him in other manifestations before the disruption of the world.  That world was not originally bad because John 3:16 says, “For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son.” Later on we see that if you love the world, you become an enemy of God.  There are different senses of the world.  This world was God’s rule or world and the word ‘world’ does not mean people; it means an arrangement, an order or a rule. Today, the earth and its natural, human, fleshly inhabitants are ruled by the god of this world.  Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world.”  That’s a big distinction.  What happened?  What happened was that another order, another rule, was interjected into the minds of Adam and Eve and they fell prey to things through the creation, through the flesh, and through the minding of the flesh, rather than obeying the word of God.  There are many mysteries, but we know that God knows all things and if he loved Christ, which is his rule, which is a manifestation of the world, before the disruption, he never changed.  However, he must have allowed many things, which we don’t see spiritually, through the ages in the plans of redemption, in Noah, in Abraham, in Moses and the prophets, and King David, etc. 


Christ was there as the Son of God, the word, before the disruption.  He, being God’s rule, was cast down, disrupted and actually crucified.  The word ‘cross’ means a pole.  The word ‘crucify’ means for a cause, or standing for a cause.  The Son of God, the word of God, always stands for the cause of what God is and what God’s purpose is.  This was cast down, but the Son, the word, the Christ, never deviated as a stand or a cost until the taking on of the flesh, the living with man, the persecution, the death, the crucifixion, and the ascension of Jesus Christ was all standing for a cause.  We are called to that cause by God and given the Holy Spirit to edify us.   


Matthew 13:35, “That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet saying, “I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things that have been kept secret from the disruption of the world.”  The word used is ‘foundation’ in the King James Version that I am using, but I am going to substitute the word ‘disruption’ because the word ‘foundation’ does not really tell you that the foundation of God’s rule was disrupted, and that is what we are talking about in all these verses. 


Matthew 25:34, “Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the disruption of the world.”  In the judgment, there are some people that are going to inherit the kingdom that has been prepared for them since the disruption.  Ever since God’s rule was disrupted through man, it is going to be restored through the man Christ Jesus and the son of man.  There is a kingdom prepared for those people.  It doesn’t say everybody.  The kingdom is a rule and God is reinstating what was disposed of, or cast down, or disrupted through humanity.  He is restoring it through a man.  Death came by one man and resurrection came by one man.  There are two men; one represents the casting down of the rule of God, which is actually his kingdom, and reinstating it through the second man from heaven, which we are part of. 


Luke 11:50, “That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the disruption of the world may be required of this generation.”  The generation is of the flesh because all men in Adam are guilty of the blood shed from the prophets unless it’s fulfilled in them in Jesus Christ.  The blood of all the prophets, which was shed from that time, is now coming as a guilt upon this generation (human nature).  The blood of the prophets was actually shed in the beginning.  Why?  It was because Christ was in the prophets.  The guilt that came on man, from dealing wrongly and killing the prophets, is the same as crucifying Christ.  It was Christ in the prophets that sent the message to speak about what was coming.  Something else has gone down through the ages and the guilt is on natural man.  The blood of the prophets has been shed from since that time because the blood represents the message of Christ.    


Hebrews 4:3, “For we which have believed do enter into rest as he said, as I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the disruption of the world.”  They entered the rest that was spoken about in Genesis.  God ended his works but they continued to occur because of his word, and they are produced by his word.  We have entered into this realm. This rest doesn’t mean that we retire from anything.  The rest, or the Sabbath, means an ending or a stopping. We that enter the works of God have entered into works that have been operating since the disruption of the world.  This is a part of the whole principal of the eternal things, and of the eternal purpose of God being manifested and unfolded because it’s already in his mind.  It’s already produced by his word, it’s developing itself, and it’s revealing and fulfilling itself.  All of these things in the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation are an unfolding of that to us.  The stages of which the revelation comes are in the Spirit.  Once we learn something, it actually applies to what is in Genesis and applies all the way to Revelation. We can have many, many levels or stages of understanding that will eventually cover everything; there isn’t just one event.  God’s preparation was there to reverse the disruption of his word in the beginning.   


Hebrews 9:26, “For then must he often have suffered since the disruption of the world: but now once in the end of the age hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.”  He appears once – that’s all.  He appears once in the physical form as the man Jesus.  He appears many times through the physical forms of the saints who have not been given the ministry of reconciling people to God. There is one offering that is sufficient since the world was disrupted, and that offering is God giving his Son to us as an offering.  God didn’t give him as a lamb in the sense of a sacrifice.  When he was killed, it didn’t take care of a substitutionary sacrifice like the lamb did. The lambs of the old days were given by men, but this was God’s offering.  He actually offered his Son.  He did it in the similitude of the flesh (in the likeness of human flesh) so that man could relate with the words, the visibility, and the miracles that he did and take heed that he had come from God. However, that did not happen and that is still not happening. Only once at the end of an age has he appeared in his people to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.  Who is he?  He is not the flesh. 


When the promise was given to Eve that the seed would come and bruise the head of Satan, Eve had nothing to do with the fulfillment of that.  When the promise came to Abraham, Abraham didn’t perform it.  When the promise came to Mary, Mary had no more of a part in bringing forth the Christ than Joseph did because Jesus Christ was not born after the flesh.  Everything was fulfilled by the word of God producing and manifesting its own purpose. Mary was used as a vessel but nothing of her designation as a child of Abraham had any impact on the word, or the promise that was given to her and the fulfillment of the Holy Spirit.  The seed that was planted with God’s promise came to fulfillment, and it was not contaminated by any kind of flesh whatsoever – not by Joseph, Mary, Eve, Abraham or any one else.   


I Peter 18-19, “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as a lamb without blemish and without spot.”  The blood of Christ is redemption.  The blood in the scripture is identified with the soul.  People have said that the life is in the blood, but that’s not so, the life is in the soul.  The soul is a consciousness of life.  We don’t understand what life is.  We don’t understand what life through the flesh is.  The soul is the consciousness of life so it actually develops your character, your being, your sense of who ‘I am.’  It is the same with Christ but that is through the spirit.  He knew that as a lamb without blemish, he had no sin, and he had no guilt from sin.  He obeys the Father and has no guilt of disobedience. He has a pure and unadulterated relationship with the Father.  


The Bible says, “Have this mind in you which is in Christ Jesus.”  God doesn’t condemn us. God knows we are his Sons and that we don’t have any consciousness of guilt.   We know that we are human, that we are going to die, that God loves us and that he loved this relationship before the disruption of the world. 


When we have the mind of Christ operating in us, it should replace all the guilt consciousness and wrong thinking - like the distrust of God, the lack of faith and the susceptibility to every kind of disease.  This wrong thinking should not be working in us but be replaced by those activities that come in the mind of Christ from God.  People don’t believe that this has happened and don’t allow themselves to grow in this, but you have to do it.  It is very essential.  We are redeemed by the blood of Christ, who is of a lamb without blemish and without spot, who was foreordained before the disruption of the world.  With the disruption, man had the opposite type of a mind – full of guilt, rebellion, self-serving and all the things that human nature is prone to do and that they are slaves of.  Man is led around by the spirits of this world, not by God.  This was foreordained before the disruption of the world.  In other words, before God’s rule was cast down, this was foreordained to be the rule.  The blood and the consciousness of man should have been that way but now it is being restored and that is what the Gospel is all about.  It was manifest in these last times for you, who by him do believe in God that raised him up from the dead and gave him glory that your faith and hope might be in God.  The blood of Christ was there before the foundation, or the disruption of the world. It was without blemish, without spot, and now we can be partakers of the divine nature.   


I Peter 22, “Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.”  Our souls were purified from the idea of who we previously were – purified from our guilt, our sin, and our sinful nature.  It’s purified by the truth.  That’s wonderful!  It’s not just a simple thing that comes to you because of God; it’s the truth of who you really are.  You have purified your souls in obeying the truth, through the spirit, which is given through Christ and unto unfeigned love of the brethren so that we love each other with a pure heart.   


Revelation 13:8, “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the lamb slain from the disruption of the world.”  The man Jesus was crucified in the land of the Jews, and it was only a demonstration of something that had already happened years ago, in the beginning of creation, in the beginning of the making of man, and the emerging of an image of God.  All these that fall prey to this rule (that is not of God) are those whose names are not written in the lamb’s book of life who was slain from the foundation of the world.  This book had the names in it from the beginning.  It’s very interesting.   


Something similar is written in Revelation 17:8, “The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”  The beast is figurative of the nature.  This is a spiritual thing that people are deceived into seeing and being ruled by because their names are not written in the lamb’s book of life.  This is the scripture of these things.  


What’s happening today is fulfillment.  Jesus came and said, “Don’t think that I came to destroy the law.  I came to fulfill the law and the prophets.”  In Christ there is a fulfillment of all these types, shadows, figures, and examples that were there in the natural.  These things are now fulfilled, not by Christ, but in Him.  When we have been taken into his nature and receive his Spirit, then the awareness of the purpose of God and these things begin to bear fruit in our own thinking (having the mind of Christ). 


Ephesians 1:4, “According as he hath chosen us in him before the disruption of the world.”  The “us” are the saints and the faithful in Christ Jesus.  If there is any pre-election, it says it right here.  We have been chosen in him.  How did he say that this happened?  He said, …”that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love.”  A lot of things have to go away before we’re holy and without blame before Him in love. That’s what the mind of Christ and the blood does - it cleanses us from all sin. The scriptures say that there are the called, the chosen, the elect, and the called out ones.  Jesus said, “You have not chosen me, I have chosen you.”  There are many verses like that.  Everything is of God and it has to be accepted if it’s of God.   


The Son of God was not born of Mary and he was there before the disruption of God, God’s word, or God’s rule.  In other words, the Son was always there and anything that happened to the promise to Eve, or to Joseph, or to Mary was simply the fulfillment of the word of God, and man has nothing to do with that.  Man couldn’t perform it, he couldn’t understand it, and couldn’t bring it forth.  These things were there like the parables, which had true indications of what was going to happen because only the one that gave the parable knew the meaning and purpose of it – that these were there before the disruption of the world and before the slaying of the lamb.  Jesus said to the Jews that all the blood of the prophets and Christ himself fell on these kind of people, on this generation of flesh, not just on certain people.   


The Son was the offering of God.  It was a one-time offering.  It was offered only once since the beginning.  He has always been offered – the Son himself – not what he did, but his nature, his character, his sense of being, and his mind.  That’s what the Son is, and that’s what was offered to us. It wasn’t offered because his fleshly body died on the cross in place of us.  That’s merely a substitution - not an identification.  The blood that was shed was foreknown.  God knew this sense of being was going to be cast down and this guilt was going fall on people.  The blood of Christ was never visible; it’s always been invisible.  The blood that fell on the ground is a judgment of the men who crucified him, and the humanity that did it.   


The names of those who are not written in the book of life since the disruption of the world are going to be worshipping the beast.  Every last one of them.  I might ask, “Well, how did these things come to pass that we’ve read?”  I might ask, “How do they happen in Him?  How does this come about? Who chooses whom?”  Well, it is God, obviously.  We can’t read these verses without seeing that this is all of God and man has nothing to do with it.  The whole thing was all there before the world was disrupted – including redemption and everything else.    


How does this come to pass?  The preparation of the Gospel, through the type or the cleansing of the earth in Noah, the promise to Abraham, the law of Moses, and the promise of the prophets, the fruit of all these things come in the Gospel. The Gospel is the good news to those who are called.  How does it work?  The Gospel itself is the call of God.  The Gospel, when correctly preached and correctly shared, is actually the call that brings those that are chosen of God into a relationship with him and are given the Holy Spirit.   


I hope you will consider these things very prayerfully and realize how wonderful it is to be called of God.  And as Paul says, “Make your calling an election sure.”  Don’t let it slip away.  Don’t let the world get a hold of you again because redemption is from that whole system of flesh and rebellion against God.  Amen. 












































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