Free Will… Do We Have It Or Not?
BY: LINDA KEITH
WHAT CAN WE DO, BECAUSE OF WHO WE ARE?
There are those who believe that we do have and use “free will;” and there are those who believe we don’t have and use “free will.” There’s much controversy around this subject. So I’d like to give my belief, regarding this.
Those who believe that we DON’T have “free will” will give scripture that THEY interpret as meaning we don’t have “free will”… which, to another person, doesn’t appear to even be about “free will.”
I want to look at some scriptures and different translations, so, let’s see what they show. Also, I want to “borrow” a couple of opinions from other writers.
First, we’re going to look at Romans 9:16. This is talking about whether or not God is unjust, and who He will give His mercy to.
These first 3 translations can be used to show that man DOES have and use “free will.”
TODAY’S ENGLISH TRANSLATION: VS 16: “So then, it does not depend on what man wants or does, but only God’s mercy.”
NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION: VS 16: “It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.”
NEW JERUSALEM VERSION: VS 16: “In other words, the only thing that counts is not what human beings want or try to do, but the mercy of God.”
These next 3 translations plainly use the words “free will”, and “back up” those who say that we DO NOT have and use “free will.”
PHILLIPS MODERN ENGLISH VERSION: VS 16: “It is obviously not a question of human will or human effort, but God’s divine mercy.”
NEW ENGLISH VERSION: VS 16: “Thus, it does not depend on man’s will or effort, but on God’s mercy.”
REVISED STANDARD VERSION: VS 16: “So, it depends not upon man’s will or exertion, but upon God’s mercy.”
So, actually, this does not PROVE that we do or do not have and use “free will”. Either group could “back up” their belief, depending on what translation they use.
Now, I’d like to use and quote from 2 writers’ opinions. They are A. P. Adams and J. Preston Eby.
A. P. ADAMS:
QUOTE: “Let me call attention to the fact that the phrase, “free moral agency” is NOT a scriptural one, any more than the phrase “immortal soul” is scriptural. “Free moral agency” is simply a theological expression, man-manufactured for his own convenience, and it may be that it does not express the truth. Let us by all means fit our theology to the Bible; and not try, as many do, to conform the Bible to our theology. Now then, to the question, is man a free moral agent? I answer most emphatically, no. Is he a machine then? Again, I say no. What then is the truth? An agent is an actor, one who is able to act; a free agent is one who can act as he pleases without any restraint; a free moral agent is one who is free to act as he pleases on all moral questions, i.e. all questions involving the qualities of right and wrong. Now, we do not hesitate to say that man is not a free moral agent.” UNQUOTE.
J. Preston Eby:
QUOTE: “Let me call attention to the fact that the phrase “free moral agent” is NOT a scriptural one, any more than the term “rapture” is scriptural.”Free moral agency” is simply a theological expression, man-manufactured for his own convenience, and like most human inventions, and extra-blibicial terminology, is NOT the truth at all. But, let us examine these three words: free moral agent.
1. An AGENT is an actor, one who is able to act or perform.
2. A FREE agent is one who can act as he pleases without any restraint of any kind placed upon him.
3. A free MORAL agent is one who is free to act as he pleases and without any restraint on all moral issues, i.e. all questions involving the qualities of right and wrong. I do not believe that the Bible anywhere teaches that man is a free moral agent.” UNQUOTE.
*(punctuation and underlining are mine)
So, it is obvious where these two brothers stand on this subject. They do not hold with the belief that man has and uses “free will”
Now, let’s look at some other scriptures, that may show why some do believe that man has and uses “free will”.
JONAH 1:1-2, “Now, the word of the Lord came unto Jonah, the son of Amittai, saying, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.”
It is obvious, here, that Father has told Jonah what He wanted Jonah to do.
JONAH 1:3, “But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the Lord, and went down to Joppa: and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare therof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from t he presence of the Lord.”
It is obvious, here, that Jonah used “free will” to NOT do Father’s bidding. Jonah was a prophet, which should show us that even Father’s prophets and Jesus’ disciples were ordinary men, as we are. They had their own ideas about things concerning our Lord. What I see, here in verse 3, is that Jonah did use “free will”. Like it or not, folks, read it for yourself. But, let’s go on.
JONAH 1:4-12, “But the Lord sent out a great wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like (was thought) to be broken. Then the mariners were afraid; and cried every man unto his god, and cast forth the wares that were in the ship into the sea, to lighten it of them. But Jonah was gone down into the sides of the ship; and he lay, and was fast asleep. So, the shipmaster came to him, and said unto him, What meanest thou, O sleeper? arise, call upon thy God, if so be that God will think upon us, that we perish not. And they said every one to his fellow, Come, and let us cast lots, that we may know for whose cause this evil is upon us. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon Jonah. Then said they unto him, Tell us, we pray thee, for whose cause this evil is upon us; What is thine occupation? and whence comest thou? what is thy country? and of what people art thou? And he said unto them, I am an Hebrew; and I fear the Lord, the God of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry land. Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and said unto him, Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of the Lord, because he had told them. Then said they unto him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous. And he said unto them, Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you; for I know that for my sake this great tempest is upon you.”
This shows that Jonah knew that the decision of disobedience was the reason for what was happening. Jonah had chose to disobey God. BUT: as we know, GOD IS ALL IN ALL. AND, we also know that just like Jonah, we were ALL placed in this earthen realm to LEARN.
Let me ask this; did you get to know your earthen dad, by him programming you? No. Your dad, would tell you to do something; and you chose to do what YOU wanted to do. What happened when you were disobedient? You got corrected, by your dad. Why? So that you would mature and come into the being, OF BEING THE MAN YOUR DAD WAS! And who was ALWAYS in control? Your dad was! But, he allowed you to LEARN by your actions and his reaction.
Father was saying to Jonah, “Well, did it do you any good to get angry with Nineveh? Regardless if the anger was against their evil way. Why weren’t you obedient and allow me to handle it?”
Father allowed Jonah to use his “free will”, to do 2 works, in this situation.
1) He caused a city with so many people, to come to repentance. (Jonah 4:11)
2) He taught Jonah that He had a plan and was in control of all things.
So, we can see “free will” being used, while at the same time, Father’s Will was being used. God’s Word tells us, “Work out your own salvation”. We, also, know that Father WILL HAVE ALL MEN SAVED; but, Father wants a people who will LEARN to be what He wants them to know Who they are. He does not want a bunch of robots. IF He wanted that, we would NEVER have been placed in this earthen realm, to show us WE REALLY ARE AS HE IS. He placed us here to learn what obedience is and what it brings, and what disobedience is and what it brings.
I believe that, yes, Father does allow us to use “free will” to find out that ONLY HIS WILL, will be shown in the end. As we learn, we learn to do His Will, UNTIL, OUR WILL BECOMES HIS WILL. Father wants us to mature and come to know that we ARE in His image in every way: love, compassion, knowledge, power, dominion, and WILL.
“WHEN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS COME, HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS.”
I want to look, in this part of our study, at, WORKS. I have let go of all the “speak religiously-correct” thing. Father speaks to me in words that I understand. He doesn’t use words that cause me to say, “Hold on, Father, let me get a dictionary.” He speaks to each of us, in the way that HE knows we will understand. To try to be otherwise IS WORKS.
From, Webster’s Dictionary, the following is the definition of, WORK:
(1) Physical or mental effort directed to a goal. (2) a job or employment; (3) the activity that serves as one’s regular source of livelihood; occupation; (4) something done as part of a job, task or duty. (5) something brought about by an effort; (6) the transfer of energy when a force is applied to a body. (sym., BUSINESS, EMPLOYMENT, JOB, OCCUPATION; (7) to form or shape; (8) to move or contort, as from painful emotion; (9) to solve by figuring or reasoning; (10) to excite or provoke; (11) to achieve (a particular state) in stages; (12) to find a solution for; (13) an act or deed, as of charity; (14) something being produced, studied ir subjected to a process.
From, Strong’s Concordance:
#2041= to toil, (as an effort or occupation), an act: deed, labor, work.
I have received several emails from the list, asking my opinion, on “WORKS”. There are those, like the Pharisees, that are constantly preaching, “Do nothing, do nothing, or else you’re doing “works” and that is part of the “church system”.”Rest and do nothing”. IF that were true, Jesus would have been part of that “church system”. Jesus, Himself, says:
“The WORKS that I do…” “There be some here, that will do the WORKS that I do, and greater WORKS will THEY do…”. “Faith without WORKS…”
Also, IF we did not do some works, Father would not be seen, through us. Now, for all of you that are of the thought, “WE can do nothing.” I do know, that it is Father who DOES the DOING through us. But, it is us/Him DOING the moving, here on earth, for Him to WORK through. There are “works” that we (this “WE” are His Body that HE WORKS, WALKS and SPEAKS through, not just mortal man) ARE to do. And there are “works” that we only learn from the DOING of them.
A precious sister in Canada, and I were talking about “works” sometime ago. When Father spoke to me about teaching “WORKS”, what she had shown me immediately came to mind. So, I’d like to share with you, the article that she sent me, probably, last year. Her name is Lorraine. So, let these words speak to you.
by Lorraine Costain
All of this talk about “works” really interests me, because this is something, which puzzled me for the longest time. I understand the feelings of wanting to ‘do’ the things we are to be ‘doing’, but not ‘doing’ them just for the sake of “doing works”…which we refer to as ‘works of the flesh.’
I have been learning that ‘works’ and ‘rest’ are actually the same thing, and this is what James is talking about in Chapter 2. Many think of rest, as doing nothing, but I don’t believe this is what God is speaking of in Hebrews 4. I believe it is something much different than what many have thought, and has everything to do with faith. The ‘works’ James talks about in James 2 is the rest that the Father speaks of in Hebrews 4.
How can we tell if the works we are doing are being done in faith or in our flesh?
It was in James 2 that the Spirit began showing me His answer to this question. He tied in James 2 and Heb 11 with Hebrews chapters 3 and 4.
The first time James puts forth the question “what good is faith without works?” is in James 2:14. We need to read verses 1-13 to see why James brought this issue up in the first place. What was he discussing with those he was talking to?
In reading these verses we can see that James was trying to correct these believers because they were treating some better than others. They were showing preference to the rich, which was dishonoring the poor amongst them, and revealing their contempt for the poor.
James 2:8–9 – “IF indeed you [really] fulfill the royal Law in accordance with Scripture, You shall love your neighbor as [you love] yourself, you do well. BUT IF you show servile regard (prejudice, favoritism) for people, you commit sin and are rebuked and convicted by the Law as violators and offenders.” AMP
What surprised me was that James was saying that one part of ‘works’ was in the way that we treat each other. I never saw it that way before. I had been taught that ‘good works’ was more a material thing, where we give food, clothing, etc… to the poor and witness to unbelievers. So, to look at “works” outside of that context was a new one for me.
James 2:12, 13 – “So SPEAK and so ACT as [people should] who are to be judged under the law of liberty (the moral instruction given by Christ, especially about love). For to him who has shown mercy, the judgment [will be] merciless, BUT mercy (full of glad confidence) exults victoriously over judgment.” AMP
I had an eye-opener. James was telling me that one part of ‘works’ was in the way that I treated other people (in words and in actions) as in showing impartiality or prejudice. In the context of all of this, James puts forth this question: James 2:14 – “What is the use (profit), my brethren, for ANYONE TO PROFESS to have faith if he has no [good] works [to show for it]? Can [such] faith save his soul]?” AMP
What I heard the Spirit saying to me was: ‘Saying you have faith in Me is just words and is not real unless it shows a change of heart…which is proved by the way that you treat (works) your fellow man. You can say all the right words, but, your treatment of others proves whether or not you believe My Word (have faith).
I never saw it that way before. To say the least, I was convicted in my dealings with others.
James takes us further concerning works in verses 15 and 16: “If a brother or sister is poorly clad and lacks food for each day, AND one of you says to him, Good-bye! Keep [yourself] warm and well fed, WITHOUT giving him the necessities for the body, what good does that do?”
James uses these verses as another example of the ‘works’ we are to be doing. Then he compares these works to ‘faith’:
James 2:17 – “SO ALSO faith, if it does not have works (deeds and actions of obedience to back it up), BY ITSELF is destitute of power (inoperative, dead).” AMP
The “also” in this verse, shows us that these first two aspects of ‘works’ are being compared as an example to “works” that are a product of faith. The first two aspects of ‘works’ have been identified as: our attitudes and actions towards others.
As I pondered these verses I began to see that it is not just the natural needs of others that James is referring to. There are those who spiritually need food and clothing.
What I heard the Spirit saying to me was: “Your faith is just in words and not real if you walk away from those who need natural or spiritual food, clothes, etc… when you have the means to meet their needs and you don’t.” Immediately we “think” that we should go “out” and do these things; but without His Spirit, this “doing” would only be in our own strength; therefore not a result of faith, but of our flesh. So I wondered; “How does faith play a part in meeting these needs?
Then I noticed that “deeds” and “acts of obedience” was the definition of “works”. “In all things be led by the Spirit of God.” Wow! Be obedient to His leading in what ‘deeds’ or ‘actions’ that we are to do. In other words, hear Him and do it! This made sense to me because I am understanding that all that is done outside of the Spirit leading, is just flesh.
Then I got it! These “works” will only be done in “faith”, as Faith is allowed to do His Work in us. To apply it, it is like this: I will only treat others the way He wants me to treat them, to the extent that I allow Him to do His Work in my heart. These “works” will only come forth in faith as I continue to receive His Heart for people. And…I will only meet the needs of the poor (both naturally and spiritually) as I learn to obey the leadings of His Spirit as He brings these ones into my life.
Many “good works” that we do in the flesh are not to be despised, as they do help others, but they are not to be mistaken as being done in ‘faith’, or as a result of faith. One aspect of “works of the flesh” is running out and doing things we read about in His Word without being prompted by the Spirit to do so. We must allow the Spirit to lead in our “doing.” Often “works of the flesh” are mistaken for “works of faith”. “Works of flesh” will wear us down until faith becomes too heavy a burden to carry. This will lead us away from faith, rather than lead us into reliance upon the Spirit. This is evident in many religious practices that are void of His Spirit. This is why understanding His Rest, in accordance with “works of faith”, is so important for us all to understand.
In James 2:1-17, we learn of two aspects of “works:” the way we treat each other, and the things we do for each other. They are only of faith, when and if they are a product of the Spirit.
In all the Spirit’s dealings and teaching with us, He always deals with us twofold: out attitude towards the Father and His Word… and our attitude towards each other. This can be summed up in Jesus words: “Love the Lord God with all your spirit, soul, mind, and strength… and Love your neighbor as you love yourself.” Our true attitude towards the Father and His Word will always be revealed or reflected in the way we treat each other.
The Spirit is revealing two principles of one “faith” and the “works” that go along with this faith. The first principle speaks of our dealings with each other… not our dealings with the Father. We mistake these “works” that James has been talking about in vs. 1-17, as being “righteous works”… works that reveal “right standing in God”. We have been wrong. In fulfilling this first principle of “works of faith”, we have only begun in our faith walk.
Mistaking our deeds and actions towards others as being “works which result in righteousness” has only increased the “works of the flesh” in people’s lives. Mistakenly pursuing “works” in the hopes of proving we that are “righteous” has left us with dirty rags. I am not against “doing’ good things for others”, I am only realizing that we have misunderstood these “works” as being “righteous works”, when they are not. “Righteous works” are something much different and are brought out in the remaining verses of James chapter 2, with examples being given from Heb 11.
James 2:20 – “Are you willing to be shown [proof], you foolish (unproductive, spiritually deficient) fellow, that faith apart from [good] works is inactive and ineffective and worthless?”
Obviously, some are arguing with James because he is getting quite firm here. James is now taking these ones and us deeper into these “works” and revealing to us “works” that cause us to be justified or made righteous in the sight of God. James is differentiating between two different kinds of “works” and now is going to identify the ones that result in “righteousness”. He begins by giving us examples of “righteous works:”
James 2:21–22 – “Was not our forefather Abraham [shown to be] justified (made acceptable to God) by [his] works when he brought to the altar as an offering his [own] son Isaac? You see that [his] faith was cooperating with his works, and [his] faith was completed and reached its supreme expression [when he implemented it] by [good] works.”
vs. 23 – “And [so] the Scripture was fulfilled that says, Abraham believed in (adhered to, trusted in, and relied on) God, and THIS was accounted to him as righteousness (as conformity to God’s will in thought and deed), and he was called God’s friend.”
These “works” are different than the ones James speaks of in the first of the chapter. James is now talking about how we personally respond to what the Father is speaking to us. We are no longer dealing with other people, but we are being brought face to face with whether or not we really believe the things the Father tells us personally.
Abraham believed and had assurance in his heart that the nature of God was good towards him, and that God’s promises to him were true. In obedience to this faith, and to the Voice of God, Abraham was willing to kill his own son… knowing that God would bring him back to life in order to perform His Word. Rahab gives us another example of ‘works’ that resulted in righteousness: “SO ALSO with Rahab the harlot – was she not shown to be justified (pronounced righteous before God) by [good] deeds when she took in the scouts [spies] and sent them away by a different route?”
Read Hebrews 11 and view the “works” that each of these saints did which resulted in them achieving “righteousness.” These works have nothing to do with how much we feed the poor, or how many people we witness to. They have nothing to do with other people, but how we respond to the Father, ourselves, in our personal relationship with Him.
These “works” prove to the Father and prove to us whether or not we really do believe His Word…all that His Spirit reveals to us…and all the promises that He has given to us. These “works” are testings of our faith, and reveals to the Father exactly who we are believing in… Him or something else. These testings reveal our faith to be either “righteous” or unrighteous.
These kinds of “works” are strictly between the believer and their Father. These works are not between us and others, but between us and the One we claim to believe in. These testings reveal the true attitude we have towards the Father and His Word. Only as we come out on the other side of these testings, do we realize just where our faith has really been placed… in Him or in something else.
When Abraham was willing to kill Isaac, this proved to the Father that Abraham really did trust and rely upon Him for all things. The Father’s deliverance of Isaac at the last second proved to Abraham that he had put his trust in the right place, in God.
These “works” will prove what is really in our heart towards the Father and His Word, regardless of what our mouths are saying. If we say we believe and we do not, then these testings will prove it. Our faith will either be found to be “righteous” or unrighteous.
Abraham, Rahab, and all those listed in Hebrews 11 passed this proving of their faith, and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. This is my desire. To grow up to the place of faith where I can trust the Father and His Word as these ones did. It is impossible to make a list of these kinds of “works” and place them on a bulletin board for all to follow. These “works” are personal… between the believer and the One they claim to be believing in.
When we go through these types of testings and “works” they reveal just where our faith is. If we fail one of these testings then this encourages us to begin looking in the right direction, which is unto Him.
The first set of “works” James discusses deals with our attitudes and actions works] towards others. The second set of “works” James discusses deals with personal individual “works” that result in righteousness or right standing with God.
The first set of “works” can be done either in faith or in flesh (with only one being beneficial to Father and His Kingdom). The second set of “works” cannot be counterfeited by our flesh. These types of “works” test us personally right where we are at. What we have put our trust in is proved clearly by the way we walk these out. This is the same faith “works” that led Jesus willingly to the Cross, knowing (believing in, trusting in, and relying upon) that His Father would bring Him forth from the grave.
We have often equated our fleshly attempt to do good things for others, as these same “works” that result in righteousness…and we have been wrong. We haven’t even come close to understanding these things correctly. But, I am thinking that the more we begin to experience such testings, the more realization we will receive. “Rest” is simply “doing” only what the Spirit is telling us to “do”, when He is telling us to ‘do’ it. Nothing more, nothing less.
WHAT CAN WE DO, BECAUSE OF WHO WE ARE?
There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about Who we are and what we can do. We are constantly being told, “WE can do nothing, only Father can do things that are to be done. We have to rest and wait.” Depending on where you are, in KNOWING WHO you are, this is true for some. But, there is a people who do KNOW who they are, NOT WHO THEY WILL BE. And they ARE DOING MUCH!! (We will get into this in the next part of this study). I want us to take a look at Jesus and us.
Most are WAITING to become Manifested Sons of God. They are WAITING for something that they ALREADY ARE. They keep judging whether or not they are Manifested Sons, by whether or not they are or can do the “greater works.” Which, these “greater works,” have absolutely NOTHING to do with determining this truth.
There are ONLY 2 words that determine if we are Manifested Sons. Manifested/Sons.
All we have to do is ask 2 questions.
1) Did we move from (manifest) the Spirit world, into the natural world that we now live in? Yes we did unless someone is fooling themselves. (and some are because they are SEEING what the “woman” is telling them. ) We ARE Spirit, but we LIVE in this natural world. That means, WE MANIFESTED from one form to another. (Gen 1:27. John 4:24)
2) Are we sons of God? Well, I know that I AM and I know EVERYONE else is too. Regardless, whether they know it or not.( Gal4:6, 1John 3:2)
We ARE, not will be, manifested from the spirit form into the flesh form and we are sons of God. What does that make us? Manifested Sons of God. Don’t start saying, ” yes , but I can’t… or I’m still…”. IT DOES NOT MATTER!! I didn’t ask, what you can do, or what you still do, I asked you, “Are you a Manifested Son of God”? I KNOW that in the Spirit, you are saying “YES, GLORY TO GOD I AM!” There’s your truth. If you focus on “works” that came out of Jesus, YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS TRUTH! We are told in the written Word, “Know JESUS no more after the flesh” (2 Cor 5:16,) The Son didn’t do the works, Father did, through the Son. So, don’t let any idea of doing great works, cheat you out of knowing who and what you ARE.
Let’s look at Father, and Pattern.
IS 45:22, “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.”
IS 46:9, “Remember the former things of old; for I am God and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me.”
1 Tim 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; God was manifest in the flesh…”
John 1:14, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Gen. 1:27, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;”
Gal 2:20, “I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, YET NOT I, BUT CHRIST LIVETH..
Acts 17:29, “Forasmuch then as we are the OFFSPRING OF GOD we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and MAN’S DEVICE.”
Eph 3:14-16, “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the WHOLE FAMILY in heave AND EARTH is NAMED, that he would grant you according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit IN THE INNER MAN – (19) And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that YE might be FILLED WITH ALL THE FULLNESS OF GOD.”
Do you see the steps here, in the above scriptures?
1) There is ONLY ONE GOD. This is, was and will always be, and can NEVER CHANGE.
2) That ONE, invisible God, manifested from the spirit realm, and showed Himself, visible, in the natural realm. He lived right here on the natural earth.
3) God created us in His image. He is Spirit, so are we.He came (manifested) in the earth, so did we.
4) We ARE, not will be, the OFFSPRING (Son) of God. And MAN has DEVISED the false knowing that WE can do nothing. MAN HAS!!
5) It IS Christ that is living in these bodies. CHRIST IS LIVING, it’s HIS LIFE, not OURS that IS BEING LIVED.
6) WE HAVE the very FULLNESS of God, what He is, what He has always been, WE have the FULLNESS of.
7) And notice, we not only are ONE WITH FATHER, WE HAVE THE SAME NAME!
Now, if it is CHRIST that liveth and not us, how can anyone say that WE (Christ, Father’s Life) cannot do anything? All things are possible through Christ. We are the SAME CHRIST that the man JESUS was. There is only ONE CHRIST. We can speak to our body; we can use the mind that Father gave us, the Christ mind. HOW? Because the life that is being lived through us, is the HEAD’s life, in His Body.
NOW, knowing this, how can ANYONE say, “WE can do nothing.”? IF you are one with Father, WE CAN DO ALL THINGS, because WE HAVE HIS FULLNESS. We just HAVE to believe what He tells us, or believe those that apparently DON”T really have the REVELATION of WHO they are. He is the Head of this Body and they cannot be separated, even with unbelief; it’s just that with the unbelief it will not be manifested in and through those who hold the unbelief, here on earth BEFORE they see the grave. You see, when you are ONE with something, you can’t be told apart. Just as it was with Jesus, He was so ONE with Father that people STILL see JESUS AS DOING THE WORKS, when it wasn’t the man Jesus doing them, in Jesus’ mind He and Father were so united that when Father did something, Jesus was also doing that same work. It wasn’t two people working together, it was ONE – FATHER. And ONCE JESUS HAD DIED, He made it possible THAT WE COULD BE THE SAME, so ONE WITH FATHER, He didn’t see it as Him AND Father, it was ONE PERSON, FATHER! One Head and One Body.
First the natural, then the spiritual; look at our brain. It sends out commands to our members and when the command reaches the particular member, it appears that that member is doing something. But, it is actually, the brain that makes the body work. ONE. So ONE, that it’s automatic. One doesn’t stop and think, “I have to take a breath”, no, the brain and the body work so at ONE that it truly IS ONE and the head cannot be separated from the body.
And then HE LEFT SONSHIP and became what and who He had been all the time: Father.
You see, the first 4 books of the NT, was/is actually the OT, still under the Law. But, once He died and made it possible for us to follow the lead or the Pattern that He laid, He RE-TURNED to the position of Fatherhood. It took HIM as Saviour, to lay the Pattern of Sonship that some will walk into, including being lifted to Fatherhood. Don’t misunderstand me, I am NOT saying that those following the Pattern will become God; there is only ONE GOD, but there will be a people who are lifted to Father Consciousness. And some will remain in Sonship. Just as in the Tabernacle of Moses; many come into the Outer Court and remain there. Then there are those who move on to the Holy Place. BUT, we all know that there is another room. The Holy of Holies.
In the last part, part 3, we looked at some scriptures regarding Jesus and Father. I want to look at this, a little further.
First, let’s take the name, JESUS. We know that it means, “God is with us”. (MT 1:23) We need to realize that name. Of course, we know that the word “name” means “nature”. It describes a nature of a person or thing.
I won’t go through all of the names/natures that God manifested in the OT. But a few of them?
EL SHADIAH= the great breasted One, Self sufficient One. His nature was a nourisher. Gen. 17:1, 2. (Gen. 31:29, 49:24, 25; Prov. 3:27; Micah 2:1; Isa. 60:15, 16, 66:10-13; Ruth 1:20, 21) In Rev. 16:7, “Lord
EL ELYON= Most High God. There was/is no God over Him. Deut. 26:19, 32:8; Psa. 18:13; Gen. 14:18; Nu. 24:16; Psa. 78:35, 7:17, 18:13, 97:9, 56:2, 78:56, 18:13; Dan. 7:25, 27; Isa. 14:14.
ADONAI= Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter ‘L ‘, lower case, ‘ord’) (Adonai is plural, the sing. is “adon”). “Master” or “Lord”
JEHOVAH-JIREH= “The Lord will Provide.” Gen. 22:14. From “jireh” (“to see” or “to provide,” or to “foresee” as a prophet.) God always provides, adequate when the times come
JEHOVAH-ROPHE= “The Lord Who Heals” Ex. 15:22-26. From “rophe” (“to heal”); implies spiritual, emotional as well as physical healing. (Jer. 30:17, 3:22; Isa. 61:1) God heals body, soul and spirit; all levels of man’s being.
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU= “The Lord Our Righteousness” Jer. 23:5, 6, 33:16. From “tsidek” (straight, stiff, balanced – as on scales – full weight, justice, right, righteous, declared innocent.) God our Righteousness
ZUR= “God our Rock” Deut. 32:18; Isa. 30:29.
I AM= Jesus upset his generation especially when He said, “Before Abraham was, I AM,” John 8:58. Note also his claim to be Jehovah in such phrases as “I AM the Light of the world,” “the bread of life,” living water,” “the Resurrection and the Life,” “the Way, Truth and the Life” in John’s Gospel. From the Hebrew OT verb “to be” signifying a Living, Intelligent, Personal Being.
There are MANY more names/nature that God was known as in the OT. Each name DESCRIBES what work God was working, under these names. But, when we get to the NT, we see “JESUS, NAMES ABOVE ALL NAMES”. (EPH 1:21, Phil 2:9) Why is the Name, JESUS, above all names? Because, as God worked under each name, it was a particular work that He did. Under the Name, JESUS, God works ALL the works under ONE NAME. (this is just one reason). The Name, Jesus, takes in ALL of those OT names in ONE name.
Now, we saw in the last study that God manifested in the flesh, as the man, Jesus. (1Tim 3:16) He became (manifested) as a flesh man AND His Son. At our creation, we were/are in HIS IMAGE. We were/are as He was. Spirit, and WE manifested into the flesh and as His Son. When Jesus died, WE died WITH HIM. We are God’s Manifested Sons, right now.
Then, Jesus died on the cross and resurrected AS HE WAS, FATHER. As many people who may not want to hear it, The man, Jesus, is no longer the SON of God, WE ARE. The written even tells us, “know Jesus no more after the flesh”. Why would He tell us this? Because when Jesus resurrected, He did not resurrect as the Son of God, He resurrected as Father, Himself, Who HE had always been.
One way we can see this is in His earthly name. During Jesus’ earthly ministry He was known as Jesus, the Christ, Jesus Christ. (John 1:41, 20:31, Luke 2:26, 3:15, Mark 8:29, 14:61, MT 16:16, 26:63 Jesus, the Christ.) We know that “Christ” means, “anointed of God, anointing, which means Father’s Life). He was JESUS, the anointed of God. That means that, He WAS ANOINTED.
AFTER His resurrection, He was known as “Christ Jesus”. This refers to His HEAVENLY MINISTRY. He BECAME THE ANOINTING, or Father’s Life. He returned to the position He had been in the beginning (John 1:1), FATHERHOOD.
John 17:4-5 In this scripture, Jesus is on the cross. Up to this point, HE HAS BEEN THE SON OF GOD. He was, at first, God the Father. He manifested in the flesh, TO LAY A PATTERN for those (all mankind, although some don’t know it yet) who died WITH HIM, to walk into this Pattern, of Sonship, that He came to lay. As the Son, He LAID ASIDE ALL DEITY. (Phil 2:5-8)
John 17:4-5, “I have glorified thee on the earth; I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. (5) And now, O Father, glorify THOU ME WITH THINE OWN SELF with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
The word “glorify” is #1392-1 in Strong’s. = to render or esteem glorious, honor, magnify, dignity, praise and worship.
What Jesus, name above EVERY name that Father God had been called, is saying here is: “I have SAVED THE WORLD, ALL MEN, I have laid a realm of Sonship and have made it possible for them to walk into. I have been a Pattern for them to walk into. NOW, I want back, what I was and what I had, and where I was before there was ANYTHING created.” He had created a Sonship realm, He placed His Spirit in each person, He made all that He had been and done possible for man to walk into. HE WAS OUR ELDER BROTHER UP UNTO THE TIME HE RESURRECTED. Now, we are the Son, and He is our Father God. But, NOW, He wanted to return to His ORIGINAL BEING. Invisible, in the spirit realm, and within EVERY CREATURE that has been created. He indeed, is ALL IN ALL. ALL OF HIS WORK AND PURPOSE IS FINISHED!! Not will be. If that were so, He would have to come back as the flesh man, Jesus, the Son. IF that were His plan, why would He inspire it to be written, “know Jesus, no more after the flesh”? That would mean that He would have to, once again, take on the form of a servant, a flesh man, leave Fatherhood, go back to being the Son; do some more work, and THEN return once again to being our Father God. Geez, this has Him coming and going as much as the Rapture lie!!
WE WERE WHAT JESUS WAS FROM THE BEGINNING!! We were created in God’s image. And we STILL are, we’ve just been ignorant of the truth of Who we were/are. I like what another writer wrote: Quote: “There was a time when man was pure, spiritual being, when he lived entirely from within himself, when His thoughts always remained at the center of his being. Life flowed out from within, ideas came from within, means of action came from within, and whenever there was an apparent need, all that he had to do was to close his eyes, go within, and let it come forth into expression.” Unquote
From the same writer, Quote: “IDENTITY is the question here. Who are you? Acts 17 says, “You are the offspring of your Father.” There is a “Himself” company now on our planet that knows the heart of the Father and lives out of the Mind of Christ. While many wait for Sons to arise… others await for Fathers to arise. 1John 2:13-14 “I write unto you, Fathers, because ye have KNOWN Him that is from the beginning” Fathers know how to reproduce! Fathers know wisdom and have understanding and a vision for this Day. As a son, one is limited, doing only that which they see the Father do, and moving in accordance with the Father’s will.” Unquote.
Look at IS.9:6, “…and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counselor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER.”
Also: John 6:62, “What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?”
You may say, “Then there is no Son of God, there is no Savior”. Read the following verses:
Rom 8:29, “…MANY shall come into the image of the Son…”
Obadiah 21, “Saviors (plural) shall come up on Mount Zion…” This word “saviors” means the same thing it meant about Jesus!
Acts 17:29, “…we are the offspring of God.“
1John 3:2, “…now, are we sons of God.”
Jesus is NOW FATHER GOD! WE are His Sons, His anointed ones, His Christ. HE SAYS IT. BELIEVE IT, WAKE UP TO HIS TRUTH and see NOTHING BUT HIS TRUTH. We even are KNOWN AS HIS NAME:
Eph 3: 14-15, “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the WHOLE FAMILY IN HEAVEN AND EARTH IS NAMED.”
Jesus is our Father’s name. We are His Son, with the same name. We are the Sons of God, and we have manifested. And I could go on all night, but there’s more that we need to know.
As we saw, when JESUS, was on the cross, as the Son, He laid His 3rd Step that some will walk into… Fatherhood, Father Consciousness.
Does that mean that we will be God? No, it means that instead of the Son consciousness that we’ve had, we will be lifted into Father consciousness.
There are those who want to be the Bride. And some want to be Overcomers. Some want to be the Church. Some want to be the Son. BUT, there are those who will walk into the 3rd step that was laid for them to walk into, Fatherhood. The Son does the Will of Father, those who are/has Father Consciousness, ARE THE WILL OF GOD. The Son will do and say what the Father tells Him; with the consciousness of the Father, He draws sons unto Himself. He imparts Himself to the sons. The Sons show the nature of the Father, in Fatherhood the complete nature of the Father IS. The Love of the Father flows through the Son, the Father IS LOVE.
Those who are hearing the calling, the ordained path into Fatherhood, cannot be touched, but touches all that come unto Him. I can’t say that I have ALL understanding of this realm, but I do know, that I will, as I keep my focus on Him. As in Him I LIVE, MOVE, AND HAVE MY BEING. Just as walking into Sonship, we learned by focusing on Father, it is the same with walking into Fatherhood.
There is a scripture that is so taken, in only one way, but Father showed me another way to look at it. I don’t recall, right off hand, where the scripture is, but it’s to the effect:
“What you lay down with, you become ONE with.” I look at “lay down” as resting. So, when we lay down (rest) with Father, we become ONE with Him.
Folks, it is finished. Gen 2, tells us this, and John 17 tell us this. Don’t allow religious ideas keep you from walking on with Father. He gave Jesus His glory and He has also given US His glory. He is the utmost of all things. And He HAS a people that are AS HE IS. Don’t allow “works” have to be proven; don’t let those who think it is blasphemy, to think we can be in Fatherhood. Father laid the Pattern. Keep your focus on what Father reveals and walk it as He leads the footsteps, and so must we.
Let us continue to seek God until we awake fully in His likeness, and remember, “When He appears we shall be like Him, for we shall see him as he is.” (1 John 3:2)
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