JUNE 23, 199




Roger and I committed this day to the lord.  As we began to pray and seek the lord, I heard Roger say, “diversities of tongues is so we can accomplish the tasks God has for us.  Tongues are for identity – for ways we work out our own salvation.  The war we deal with is in the spirit – not in the carnal.  To get revelation knowledge of it, you must be focused in spirit on His will – His plan.  We look at material things as necessities.  We should turn our focus to necessities in the spirit, for when the necessities of the spirit are manifest, the necessities of the physical will also manifest.”

Roger felt strongly that we should hear, once again, the Larry Hodges’ tape: “The Ascension Ladder.”

Roger said:  “The Lord said ‘I can present the things to you, but unless you receive them, they will be of no benefit to you.  You must experience them hands-on – just like making bread – if you don’t have the right ingredients in the right amounts, it will not be good bread.  Everything must be in divine order.’ “

I had Larry and Betty Hodges on my heart so strongly that I got up and went to Gary Sigler’s folder and got the information I needed: a book on tape by Larry Hodges, mailed out by Gary Sigler – ”The All Encompassing Work of Christ.”

I got that book and brought it into the living room and Roger got the boom box so we could hear again the “Ascension Ladder” tape by Larry Hodges.

Then Roger read Ezekiel 17:  [two different eagles] “the word of the lord came to me saying, “son of man, pose a riddle, and speak a parable to the house of Israel and say, ‘thus says the Lord God: “a great eagle [Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon] with large wings and long pinions, full of feathers of various colors, came to Lebanon and took from the cedar the highest branch.  He chopped off its topmost young twig. And carried it to a land of trade; he set it in a city of merchants.  Then he took some of the seed of the land and planted it in a fertile field.  He placed it by abundant waters and set it like a willow tree.  And it grew and became a spreading vine of low stature; its branches turned toward him, but its roots were under it.  So it became a vine, brought forth branches, and put forth shoots.  But there was another great eagle with large wings and many feathers; and behold, this vine bent its roots toward him and stretched its branches toward him, from the garden terrace where it had been planted, that he might water it.  It was planted in good soil by many waters, to bring forth branches, bear fruit, and become a majestic vine.” “say, ‘thus says the Lord God:  “will it thrive?  Will he not pull up its roots, cut off its fruit, and leave it to wither?  All of its spring leaves will wither, and no great power or many people will be needed to pluck it up by its roots.  Behold, it is planted.  Will it thrive?  Will it not utterly wither when the east wind touches it?  It will wither in the garden terrace where it grew.” ‘ “

Moreover the word of the lord came to me, saying, “say now to the rebellious house: ‘do you not know what these things mean?’  tell them, ‘indeed the king of Babylon went to Jerusalem and took its king and princes, and led them with him to Babylon.  And he took the king’s offspring, made a covenant with him, and put him under oath.  He also took away the mighty of the land, that the kingdom might be brought low and not lift itself up, but that by keeping his covenant it might stand.  But he rebelled against him by sending his ambassadors to Egypt, that they might give him horses and many people.  Will he prosper?  Will he who does such things escape?  Can he break a covenant and still be delivered?  As I live, says the lord god, surely in the place where the king dwells who made him king, whose oath he despised and whose covenant he broke with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die.  Nor will pharaoh with his mighty army and great company do anything in the war, when they heap up a siege mound and build a wall to cut off many persons. Since he despised the oath by breaking the covenant, and in fact gave his hand and still did all these things, he shall not escape.'”  Therefore thus says the Lord God:  “as I live, surely my oath which he despised, and my covenant which he broke, I will recompense on his own head.  I will spread my net over him, and he shall be taken in my snare.  I will bring him to Babylon and try him there for the reason, which he committed against me.  All his fugitives with all his troops shall fall by the sword, and those who remain shall be scattered to every wind; and you shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken.”

Thus says the Lord God:  “I will take also one of the highest branches of the high cedar and set it out.  I will crop off from the topmost of its young twigs a tender one and I will plant it on a high and prominent mountain.  On the mountain height of Israel I will plant it; and it will bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a majestic cedar.  Under it will dwell birds of every sort; in the shadow of its branches they will dwell.  And all the trees of the field shall know that i, the lord, have brought down the high tree and exalted the low tree, dried up the green tree and made the dry tree flourish; I the lord, have spoken and have done it.”

Roger remembered that yesterday when he listened to the Larry Hodges tape on “The Ascension Ladder”, Larry spoke “I raised a lot of Ishmaels.”  Roger felt he was referring to his marriage to the harlot church – that he produced Ishmaels – they were a product of carnality. 

Production in ‘fear of the Lord’ produces Isaacs.  Only one genuine, but many replicas or counterfeits. 

Last night when we got home, Phil Coffman, our friend from Trinidad, Colorado, had an e-mail waiting for us with a writing from Floyd Mc Clung on ‘Apostolic Passion.’  I read this 5-page article aloud to Roger.  I saw how much this lined up with not only what Roger had just read, but also what we had heard on Hodge’s tape on ‘Ascension Ladder’. [if any of you have interest in this article, I’ll be happy to send it as an attachment to an e-mail, upon request, or you can find it on Lighthouse Library’s TEXT CD in GENERAL TEACHINGS.]

As we again listened to this tape, I heard Larry Hodges begin reading in Luke 2:41.  Jesus was age 12 talking to the learned Scribes and Pharisees.  He knew he was the Son of God.  He knew who his real Father was.  Yet in his place of great power and authority, he came to Nazareth and was subject to his earthly parents.  In another place years later, Jairus spoke to Jesus and said “I am a man like you, under authority.” 

Jesus said “I can, of myself, do nothing.  He was totally helpless.  Submit yourself.  Be under subjection to God – then you will have power and authority.

Jesus saw Nathaniel – told him he saw him under a fig tree.  Also told him there would be a time he would see angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man. 

Tabernacles represents the redemption of the body.  In a natural birth, the head comes forth first.  Jesus came forth first.  We are the “feet company.”  He said he would put death under his feet.  We are in various places of ascension on this ladder.  When we focus only on doctrine and revelation, we have missed Him.  We are involved in the first resurrection.  Jesus is the resurrection.  He is in you.  The spirit says – no more I, but Christ that liveth in me.  If you can latch onto this, it will bring you behind the veil – nothing lacking in Him. 

I had bloody fingernails trying to get up Mt. Sinai – to gain altitude in God.  We are not in a performance-oriented doctrine. 

He will not accept an “improved you.”

It is as difficult to be what you already are as it is to come back from a place where you haven’t been – like a man in a chair trying to sit in a chair.

As soon as the fishermen realized Jesus was in the vessel and they accepted the fact he was truly there, they were suddenly at their destination – on the other side.  They entered into his rest… did not have to finish rowing… but were, at once, where they needed to be. 

Only because of unbelief – do we lack the ability to do everything Jesus did.  Only one will – totally united with him.  The only way to enter into his rest is to relinquish ALL and be in total union with Him for His glory!  Jesus came forth in His resurrection in an incorruptible body. He walked through walls.  Jesus told Mary not to touch Him because he had not yet ascended to the father. 

Larry Hodges believes the Holy Spirit spoke through Paul when Paul said to let the woman keep silent – he believes this refers to the feminine part of man – the psyche – the soulish realm.  He believes this is the reason Jesus told Mary not to touch him – that it was a type of seeing that he didn’t want to be touched by the soulish realm.

We’re all being brought to a place where we can no longer allow the soulish things [mind – thinking,  will – self desire,  emotion – feelings]  place their demands on us. 

God is building into us “divine discontent” to the point where we are satisfied with no less than God alone in total control of us.

Hodges speaks of a probationary period of time [40 days with Jesus] – not necessarily a set, literal time, and not the same time with everyone.  But the purpose of this time is to allow us to adjust from walking totally in the soulish realm to walking totally led by the Spirit of God. 

It is not just a “better you” coming forth.   He spoke of a total take over – of regeneration not just make-over – of the total death of Adam and the total lordship of Christ.

He spoke of still walking in the soulish realm [damaged emotions, self- will, an undisciplined mind] as being like baby-sitting.  I immediately thought of one close to us who made a decision to marry a man years ago when she was still walking in the soulish realm and today she is literally ‘baby-sitting’ the product of her decision – a person she is waiting on, hand and foot, that has no concept of anything spiritual – who lives totally in the flesh.  I saw her as bowing down to a fat statue of buddha. She has grown greatly in God, but has this millstone around her neck.

Hodges spoke of the law of circularity – everything returns to its origin [Eccel. 12:7] the body came from dust and returns to the earth.  The spirit came from God and returns to God.

But, there is a spiritual body.  Jesus got His spiritual body in His resurrection.  So do we!  [by faith]  No soul can ascend to God in a flesh body.

Many of us have come into the holy of holies, but only for fitful moments – because our flesh bodies could not stand it.  But having an incorruptible body, gives us the ability to ascend.

Martha Wing Robinson, who lived at the turn of this century, stepped into another realm in the spirit and received her incorruptible body, was able to walk through walls and her new body did not require food.  Oh, she would eat occasionally, but only to be sociable. 

Galatians 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me; and the life that I now live in the flesh I live by faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.  I do not set aside grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”

Mary Wing Robinson became “infected” with “divine discontent.” she was no longer satisfied with anything except having all of God.  She wanted to completely die to self.  The Holy Spirit began to pray through her.  She said the only words she could speak were “let me die”, “let me die”, “let me die.”  She described the sounds she was making as being like the “ticking of a grandfather clock.”  Apparently this went on for a long period of time.  One night she knelt in front of her old wood cook stove to pray and found that she had no prayer at all.  She knew in her spirit that God had fully possessed her.  She had no thoughts of her own.  She had stepped over into Galatians 2:20 – she could only speak what her Father spoke.  She walked like this for the next 15 years.  She received her new body – the new raiment of the Zadok priesthood.  For them it was temporary – used only when they entered the holy of holies, but for us today, it is possible to have a permanent transformation that allows us to be “before God” continually.  This is how we ascend into ‘heaven’ – into the bosom of our heavenly Father.

God spoke to Mary Wing Robinson and told her that what He had allowed her to experience was only a taste of what He would do at the end of this age.

Mary Wing Robinson said her thoughts were no longer her own.  Even in small matters, such as drying the dishes, she found herself fully “reprogrammed” in that she did not accomplish this task in the same manner as she had before the ‘total takeover’.  But she observed that His way was easier. 

In Ezekiel 44:17 it speaks of the Zadok priesthood and how they were required by God to put on a change of raiment before they could enter the holy of holies and minister to the Lord in His presence.  But in the incorruptible body – no flesh in it, one could be in the holy of holies continually and go out no more.  This new body will enable us to be in total union with Him.

Jesus was the Word of God – not only what He said, but everything He did.  He was the living Word of God.

Jesus wouldn’t allow Mary to touch His body, yet He insisted on Thomas touching Him.  But this does not mean He had anything against women – it was again – the psyche – the feminine part of human beings – the mind, will, and emotions.  He wanted to stay untouched from all that. 

Jesus walked about in His incorruptible body 40 days and nights as an example to us.  As we come into the first resurrection, there is a period of time to be on probation – time to adjust – to be trained to stop walking in the soulish realm.  It might be far longer than 40 days – depending on how freely we yield to the leading of the Holy Spirit.

The Lord desires to give glorious liberty to the Sons of God – to set them free from the tyranny of rational reasoning – the carnal mind.  Adam was just as helpless as Jesus – before the fall.  He could do nothing but what the Father showed him and he could say nothing but what the Father gave him to say.  But he chose to override that infallible guidance system and operate in his rational reasoning – thus separating himself from God.  He became crafty after the fall… manipulative… scheming… intellectual.  The rational mind is a false prophet. 

[NOTE BY SUNNY – I had taken a break from typing to fix a bite of breakfast for us, when I had a revelation – The mind of Christ can only be programmed by God.  Armed with the information he has today, the enemy of our soul wants to stay as far away from Christ as possible.  So, get the mind of Christ and see all mental attacks stopped in your life!]

Walking in Tabernacles is not just an improvement over Pentecost.  It is totally other and totally utter. It is utterly – completely yielded to the SPIRIT rather than the SOUL [mind, will, emotions, intellect].

We are bought with a price.  We are not our own.  But, in Pentecost, we have poked pies, candy, cakes, and grease into our bodies and asked God to keep us safe.  We have defiled our temples greatly.  But it is not our temple, it is the temple of the living God.   Behind the veil in Tabernacles, we walk free from the lust of the flesh.  We are not self-serving.  There is already a natural body and a spiritual body.  Jesus got his spiritual body in the resurrection and so do we, [by faith].

[NOTE BY SUNNY:  I had taken time out to open mail and found a letter from our dear missionary friend now serving in Western Samar in the Philippines.  Because there are so many correlations, I’ve chosen to include some of this letter for your strengthening and encouragement:

“recently learning to ‘wait’ on him – his glorious, all-sufficient person.  We’ve been reading Andrew Murray’s book ‘Waiting on God’.  He lived 1828-1917 and started writing only after age 78 – after resigning from a pastorate.  So many scriptures talk about ‘waiting on god.‘  We come up so ‘self-sufficient.

I just looked up all the wait, waiting, waited scriptures in the book and the main thrust from the concordance is:  to quiet self, be silent, look, watch, adhere to, quietly, patiently, expect, trust, and hope, await with confidence.

What we’ve been learning is that God created the world, planned, executed, and maintains our salvation – all without any help from us.  Jesus came, died, and is now preparing [re-doing] the heavens for the coming event of mankind living there, and all without our help or great wisdom!

His highest purpose for us is to KNOW HIM as ALL or I AM and to see ourselves as the object of His grace, mercy, and love… resting in His working in and through us!  …staying out of the management/control part and becoming totally the objects of His love.  He blesses us as a Father does a small child who utterly and completely trusts in, relies on, leans on, believes, and confidently expects… acknowledging our total dependence on him and obediently doing what he says do!

If we can get that under our belt – into our heart – and live it – what a life!” [END of QUOTE]



Larry Hodges continues in his tape “The Ascension Ladder” – that Jayne Leade, who lived in the 1600’s had the revelation of the ascension ladder.  She saw people going up the ladder and then coming back down and ministering out of that glory. 

Angels were coming back down out of the New Jerusalem [we are the New Jerusalem].  There is no sun [no one operating out of their carnal, logical minds].  There is no moon [no one operating out of their emotional realm].

In the holy place in Moses’ tabernacle, there was the golden candlestick, which represented Bible knowledge… this was a wonderful confirmation to me of a word the Lord had shared with me recently about the Bible and what it can produce without the rhema word of the Holy Spirit – His revelation to bring life.  [See that teaching soon on our web page that will be coming forth.]  Larry Hodges says there is not even the lampstand of Bible knowledge in the New Jerusalem.  These folks that are coming forth are not going to be Bible-quoting – scripture-speaking people.  They are going to be speaking a LIVING WORD – a LIFE-PRODUCING WORD – a WORD SPOKEN THROUGH THEM TO EFFECT CHANGE.  We’ve had the concept but these coming forth now will have the manifestation.  Tabernacles is utterly different – putting on a display of who God really is!  He will appear in you.  And as soon as you see Him in you:

1] you will lose all fear of death

2] you will be an instrument of love



Romans 8:14 “for as many as are led by the Spirit of God are Sons of God.”  Women think they need a man for a covering – in place of Christ.  Christ is all the covering anyone needs.  The false doctrine of being in subjection to man is part of the deception that has kept us from the power of God.

We receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.  But being filled with the spirit is only the earnest – not even the down payment.  In purchasing a home, the earnest money could be as little as $100.00, but the down payment usually is at least 10-20%.  Now we are waiting for the rest of the spirit to be poured out on us. 

We are the children of God – live a crucified life – if children, then heirs.  God is going to appear in his temple – his people. 

Salvation was free – the initial gift was free, but this next gift has to be purchased.  It will cost you all you have.


Law of firstfruits:  the first one born blesses those that come after him.  Adam was put to sleep to have the [psyche] woman removed from him.  But nowhere does it say he was ever awakened.  So many places it says “awake, oh man.”  But this new company will be fully awake.

Author’s note:  be sure the reader knows that the Coffman’s are, in no way, attempting to take credit for what Bro. Larry Hodges had to say on his tape “The Ascending Ladder” nor are we taking any credit for what our sister, Joyce Roberts from the Philippines wrote in her letter of June 14, 1999.  We have only attempted to record events that occurred in one day of our lives to let you see how God brings all things together to make a point when He has His children in a teaching place.















































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