THROUGH EYES of FIRE SERIES #24
BY: DANIEL YORDY
JULY 7, 2013
TWO WOMEN or ONE?
There is a great desire running through so many to pronounce “Anathema” in one way or another against individuals or groups who call themselves Christians on the one hand and practice something that is considered outside the pale of “true” Christian conduct or belief on the other.
Let me be specific. I recently saw a list of names of leading Christian ministries and then the statement that they were all 33rd degree Masons. The problem is the one making that statement did not know those three personally and had not walked together with them. Neither did that one research those claims out to find actual evidence before sharing it with others. I also saw a much worse accusation against Billy Graham floating around. I did not read it; I have no interest in such things. Yet the church is filled with such things.
The problem with researching the dark side of human events is that more than half of what you read is likely made up by someone. Some things may be true, yes, but we can only attest to their truth in a general way unless we have perused the original evidence ourselves. Some researchers may be more trustworthy than others, but all things we must weigh carefully. We don't just throw charges and innuendo around as if they are gospel truth.
Every charge I have read against the move communities in which I lived bore NO relationship with any form of reality I saw or experienced in eighteen years of devoted living inside those same communities. All of it, every line, including that written by former, though brief, members of those communities I just do not know. Only those who see Christ alone, speaking only of their own personal experience of difficulty inside the hand of God, ever speak the truth concerning any local assembly of Christ.
I read recently someone who lived in the move communities in British Columbia during the seventies. This person, writing recently, stated unequivocally that she found no love whatsoever in those communities. Wow! In those same communities at that same time, I found the love and presence of God manifest through precious saints everywhere I looked. Maybe Jesus spoke the truth
Yet, at the same time, I will only fully agree with any individual person's memory of wrongful experience and seek to show them how Christ lived as them through all of it, bearing the larger part of the difficulty Himself. I know what was wrong in our community experience, and I know what was God in the same.
Every single description of Joel Osteen I have seen in accusation are of a Joel Osteen I have not known. They are just not the same man or ministry. Those writing such things clearly do not know Joel. Yet I am fully aware of the points where Joel falls short of the full glory of Christ in what he teaches.
Those who accuse refer only to themselves, to their own desires and imaginations. Those who pass around their accusations, join hand to hand in the same self-recrimination. In the end, there is no such thing as condemning others. Who can effectively condemn Christ? Those who condemn, separate only themselves.
I see no ministry of Christ found in exposing the compromises and failures of fellow believers in Jesus. For every sin you expose, your sin is greater. If Jesus could save you, then Hitler is no problem for Him.
Here is the problem. We imagine that we ourselves have little need for salvation. I was past thirty when my eyes opened to how badly I had treated, at times, those who worked with me in construction. I had not known it before: I was stricken by that realization.
Pick the most wicked wickedness you might imagine and explain how it is that you are not in more dire need against the just requirements of a holy God. Anyone who feels a “ministry” of sin-exposure in other believers
The second witness of Christ is clothed in sackcloth. That means they neither accuse others nor see themselves as any kind of accuser. It means they know how much Salvation means to them.
Yes, the act of homosexuality is sin, but the preacher who proclaims the homosexual cannot know the grace of God in spite of his sin is the greater sinner. How can that preacher, then, know the grace of God in spite of his sin?
Yes, aborting one's baby is a sin, but throwing a woman who has aborted a baby into prison in “righteous condemnation” is a greater sin.
Yes, using illegal drugs is wrong, but throwing a young man into a prison cell with violent and wicked men because he used drugs is a far, far greater crime. How can a society stand before God when they commit such wickedness against their young?
People find great self-affirmation by decrying the falseness of other believers. Which sin is greater?
Is Jesus marrying a harlot as He draws you into union with Himself?
Of course He is. If you want to know who the Harlot of Revelation is, just look in the mirror.
Yet He has drunk all the dregs that you and I are as His Father asked Him to do. We have become His joy ONLY because He swallows up our evil. But the moment we turn and discover our brother's evil, evil He also swallowed up into Himself, we have our backs turned to ever knowing Him as He is.
There is no false lamb; there is no Antichrist. Such a thing cannot exist as something in itself.
There are false spirits. There are lost and foolish people. And there is the true Lamb who is the Savior of all men.
The false lamb is an image, a delusion, the fiction created by people who do not love Salvation and Blood always flowing over them.
Are there really two women in the earth? Or is there just one? Is flesh and blood any enemy of Christ? Or is His enemy a lying spirit of heaven?
The Lord knows those who are His (but He will NEVER tell us about anyone except ourselves); let him who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity. There is one way only to depart from iniquity and that is always to face into the Blood. The very act of proclaiming our brother's sin IS turning away from that Blood for us.
This is serious; it is the one sin that breaks the church.
You see, if the Lord knows those who are His AND if He never tells anyone except personally, “You are Mine,” then proclaiming any particular brother or sister as false must come out of false knowledge, knowledge not received from Jesus. Using false knowledge (lies) to ferret out the truth never finds the truth that is Christ.
That false knowledge is the harlot. Just because you “read it somewhere” does not make it true knowledge.
Now, are there boundary lines within which we do speak? Yes there are.
We speak against the general tendency to turn one's back on Jesus in whatever form that takes, as I am doing here. But the whole motive of our speaking is not to decry turning one's back on Jesus, but to proclaim the great value and joy of seeing Christ alone.
The writer of the paper on Billy Graham saw Christ not at all. Not seeing Christ causes more damage than most any “sin” we might decry. The writer of the paper was hurting Christ far more than Billy Graham ever could have.
We also speak against the darkness of the world as it brings such cruelty and destruction into people's lives. And thus we speak against the practice of loving that darkness and enabling its cruelty. Inside of this speaking, it is right to speak concerning specific actions of named people in public prominence. That is, we speak against those actions of the power figures of this world that are lies and wickedness. However, we always separate between the person and the act of sin. If Jesus is not Savior of all, then He cannot be Savior of me.
But to speak concerning any Christian by name is right only in one arena. None of what we speak will ever call into question the seeing of Jesus. Rather, it is right to speak only against specific teachings that are leading God's people to destruction. I have done so with John Hagee and Buddy Cobb; yet inside my speaking against specific things they teach, I fully acknowledge that Christ moves through them into their churches as life and salvation.
If Jesus cannot move through John Hagee in spite of his false teaching, then Jesus cannot move through Daniel Yordy and He cannot move through you. Because we surely have some things wrong. It's not otherwise possible.
Receive one another just as Christ receives you.
There is a huge difference between receiving all who name the name of Christ just as Christ receives us and trusting all in close walk together. I will never trust any group who does not practice this command of the Father, receive one another, to their own hurt. I will receive them; I will worship with them, but I will never trust them to walk closely together.
I hate abuse in the church. I hate it when Christians see sin in Christians and not Christ. As if their own sin is not 1. Horrific beyond measure and 2. Swallowed up by Blood. I once lived inside this practice for years, and I hate it. Yet what I lived in was mild compared to the practice of some.
Speaking the truth in love means speaking Christ into one another, it means singing the Song of the Lamb. It has nothing to do with “exposing sin.” And I especially hate it when these words of Christ, “just speaking the truth in 'love,' brother,” are used to justify such practice of evil, discovering sin and not Christ.
But yes, there is another arena where we speak concerning evil practice. When we are walking together with other believers, there are times when someone's forgetfulness of Christ shows itself in harmful practices against other members of that assembly. It is then that those who are wise in the Lord, those who see the Blood always flowing over them, speak privately only with those individuals involved, first to divert harm, but second to remove the offender if harm can be diverted no other way. Never is such speaking for public consumption.
But if your brother sins in a way that is not bringing direct and immediate harm to an innocent party, then speak Christ into him, sing the Song of the Lamb all through his life, causing him to see Jesus alone in adoration and worship. Restore such a one in all gentleness.
Did the one who wrote the piece about Billy Graham speak Christ personally into Billy Graham while walking together in love? Not speak condemnation against sin, but speak Christ, Billy Graham's only life?
If Christ is as me in spite of me, then Christ is as all who belong to Him. If the most wretched member of the body of Christ is not carried utterly and only by the true Lamb, than neither are we.
If Christ drank the dregs of me, then Christ drank the dregs of Billy Graham. The one who speaks evil of Billy Graham IS speaking evil of Jesus. Anytime you see accusation against one who believes in Jesus, then you must replace that person's name with “Jesus,” all the way through and now you are reading it clearly.
Jesus is engaged to a prostitute and only marriage will cleanse her. Yes, there are those who are cleansed by that union, and those who hold back. All who speak of sin in their brother ARE holding back. All those who are cleansed by union with Christ first see the Lamb carrying all.
I reject the idea that the ministry of God at the end of this age is a ministry of condemnation. Judgment and condemnation are on opposite sides of the Battle. Judgment is the exaltation of Christ – see, He speaks true;
Yes, God and Salvation are paradox. They make no sense to the human mind. Those who see the church as two, harlot and bride, remain in the harlot. Those who are cleansed utterly by union-first see Christ carrying all, yet they are the only ones truly pure.
Christ is ALL first before ANY not-Christ vanishes away.
Jesus drank the dregs; Jesus became all sin. Only if our own sin is found entirely in Christ can sin ever vanish from us.
Speaking against another brother by name is not what separates one from Christ. The one who speaks against his brother by name has already turned his back on Christ in order to do so. The problem is not the speaking; the problem is the not seeing Christ.
Do you see the huge short-circuiting this Savior of ours causes inside of us? I have struggled with His propensity to carry all through all these years of knowing union with Him. And here it is again.
There are brethren with whom I presently associate who speak names and sin, who pass on diatribes of evil written against others who also name the name of Jesus. I hate that practice, all the way through years of experience in my gut. I hate that practice by my own NEED to sink always into Christ as all that I am and out of the HORROR and lostness of a self not Him. I would receive all because that is the nature of the One who fills my heart. But I will not trust those who practice such things to walk closely together with them.
HOWEVER, I have a problem. My problem is the Lamb who carries them. If Jesus carries me, then He must, in full measure, also carry them. If I do not see Christ alone all through these my brethren, than I do not see Christ.
This Savior of ours just makes no sense to us. His Salvation makes no sense. Our minds demand the recognition of the appearance of fault.
It is an interesting pattern that the harlot is presented as a woman in Revelation 17, but as a city in Revelation 18. Then, the Bride is presented as a woman in Revelation 19, but as a city in Revelation 21.
Do I dare to suggest that they are the same woman?
I do dare. The Salvation of my Savior requires me to dare such a thing. There is a human mind that wants to condemn the harlot. There is a heart of love that desires to win her as His bride. Which desire wins? If we cause the vision of John to come under the Salvation of Christ, can we escape the first and enter into the second?
I hate it when fellow Christians exalt the Beast, pledge their hearts in allegiance to its battle flags, and pray for its hired killers. I do not join prayer groups because I will not touch the spirit that “prays for the troops.” I hate it when my brethren are primary enablers of cruelty and abuse in this world. Yet I dare not to exclude them from Christ. If I push them out from Him, how, then, do I escape my own sin? This opportunity to cast myself utterly into my Savior every single day is so valuable to me; I am utterly lost without Him. Dare I see anyone else any differently?
The problem is that not all know how lost they really are. Pretending has the ability to mask over utter lostness. Pretending is a deadly enemy; establishing one's own rightness removes the knowledge of how much one needs the Savior and thus removes the continual sinking into Him, the enduo, that alone causes us to know all victory.
Not knowing how lost you are is your greatest enemy.
When I was sixteen years old, I overdosed on LSD, taking four times of a heavy dose my first time. As I passed from this world to the next in my consciousness, I saw the heavenly city. I saw the gates closed and barred against me. I “knew” that I was forever lost. I spent the next eight hours locked into absolute fear. I lived for 15 years with the same demon gripping pain all through me every single moment in spite of all my wonderful experiences in God.
I know what lostness is. I cannot live there; I dare not pretend.
Sometime in those same years, I had jumped into the water to rescue a friend who was in over his head and could not swim. He had entered mindless panic. The moment he touched me, he climbed on top of me. I was not prepared. I spent a “long” time under water before my feet touched bottom and I could walk back up into the air, my friend still on top of me. During that time I saw the headlines of the newspaper, “Two Boys Drown in Crabtree Creek.” I saw my whole life flash before my eyes. When we were finally seated on the bank, recuperating, I saw an ugly worm in the water struggling to escape. My heart broke for that worm, and I rescued it out of its despair.
At the age of nineteen, when God brought me back into fellowship with Him, here is the text that He used, that He spoke into me, for the sake of His faith in me.
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
You see, this word left me clearly without hope. That's what God does with each of us.
Then here was my prayer in my despair. “Lord Jesus, would You crucify Yourself again for me a second time, would You put Yourself to open shame for me?” It's not that He did, it's that He had already done so.
The one who waves any form of
Do you need a Savior every moment? – I do!
And because I need my Savior every moment of my life, I will never withdraw Him from anyone.
This is serious business, Salvation; it is no game we play.
The greatest enemy of the two witnesses, their greatest grief, will be all the pretend witnesses who are witnesses of condemnation as if they are Christ. The name of Jesus is slandered across the whole earth BY those who find fault in their brethren and who wave that fault around as if they are doing something important.
If entering into all the fullness of Christ does not place one beneath the least and the worst, it is not Christ that one is knowing.
God is the One who arises from beneath, carrying His enemies inside Himself all the way into life. If you want to see God, look down. There is no bottom lower than He, nor any sinner dropped out of Him. Yet, to look down at anyone who names the name of Christ, including the Pope as a person and fellow believer, is to lose sight of the Lamb who always carries all. When we look at our brother, we are always looking up.
You see, I would, as clearly as I can, make myself clear on where I stand on this point. I will love because love does fill my heart. I will see Christ living as, but I will not walk with those who practice false judgment by false knowledge. I cannot come into close stride with anyone who is not being rescued out of their own lostness every moment of their lives, every breath that they draw, by sinking utterly into the Lamb who always carries them.
Their is no assigned ministry of condemnation in the church. Condemnation is a false flag. We cannot read John's vision as if it is a ministry of condemnation. We must read it as a manual for sons filled with Christ to whom God gives understanding of all the realms of hiding into which His Beloved is caught.
The ones who use that understanding to lift up the skirts of Jesus' woman – a harlot, yes – and call for the world to come and see her uncleanness cannot know the Lamb who IS carrying them as well.
Christ Jesus is Savior and Salvation and He does all things well, accomplishing all that His Father sent Him to do, to seek and to save all that is lost. Our task is to sing His Song with Him, moving in pure harmony with Him in His great mission and sending. We sing no other song.
I have never read Revelation before through eyes of fire, as I now see God in the earth through us. Now, as I read, I begin seeing all sorts of little things I had never seen. Consider the following passage.
These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.” Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
First, the fact that all are of one mind and that all give their power and right to the beast is the normal human life in this world, it is the story all tell themselves about themselves and where they fit into the grand scheme of things. Those who “pray for the troops” ARE at war with the Lamb. It's no biggy; it's just death, and death is what we humans do best.
Then look at this phrase:
People get off on the image of a lamb hacking his enemies to pieces; they forget that while they were enemies of all that is God and holy, the true Lamb defeated them BY laying down His life for them, carrying them inside Himself all the way into life.
An enemy is one who attempts to kill you. Jesus did not just attempt to kill you, He succeeded.
Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with...
The Lamb defeats everybody through us as we sing the Song of the Lamb into all.
Then this one: For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
Is this not a full expression of all that I teach? That God has great purpose for all things, including the dragon and the beast, the lie and the curse, and that God's purpose is that He might prove His Word true? And where is the essence of “the words of God are fulfilled”? For that, we must go to the very heart of John's gospel.
Jesus answered and said to him,
“Until the words of God are fulfilled” brings the revelation of Jesus Christ through us front and center upon this planet.
Let's bring a number of things together. First, let's position the location of God's people.
“Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.”
You see, all of God's people are in the harlot. All. We do not escape the harlot by “getting rid of” the harlot. How can we escape something that is not by getting rid of something that is not? Those who attack the harlot are running around in circles hacking at nothing.
We escape the harlot by singing the Song of Christ our life into ourselves, into each other, and into all.
Christ first and all before the untrue vanishes as it never was. When you enter a dark room, you do not busy yourself getting rid of the darkness. Getting rid of the darkness never enters anyone's mind. In the real world, you simply flip on the light switch and the darkness vanishes as it never was. Only Christian fantasy, the myth of Sisyphus, busies itself with endlessly getting rid of the darkness so that someday, someday, there might be light.
Then these two verses are THE SAME thing.
And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose... – Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child.
What makes the difference between the two?
But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.
That's us. Sing, sing to her a true song, the song of Christ her very and only life. Do not sing the song of the harlot, but the Song of the Lamb.
The purpose of God is to end what is not BY Proving that all the Word that He speaks IS in all fullness in all weakness through many. Those who are blind shouting, “I see through eyes of fire.” Those who are deaf shouting, “I hear the voice of my Shepherd and I live.” Those who are ignorant shouting, “I know Him who is beyond knowing.” Those who walk in dying bodies shouting, “The immortal life of Jesus is revealed in my dying flesh.”
Sing, sing to her a true song.
Sing, sing, until the Song of the Lamb fills the entire earth, the only story told by all. Christ is the only life we are.
Everyone sees what they want to see in the Bible; everyone finds exactly what they seek. We seek for the revelation of Jesus Christ through us into all creation and guess what! We find His revelation in every unlikely place in every phrase found in, of all things, the Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to His servant John.
Those who seek the power of condemnation find words of condemnation everywhere they look in the Bible and thus feel “god-like” as they condemn. Those who seek Christ birthed and revealed in all the earth, into all creation, find Christ their only life everywhere they look in the Bible and thus are transformed into that same image.
And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
The authority of the universe, the authority of the kingdom, is in our mouth.
You see, if we do not stay always with the action verb of God's universe, nike, overcome, subdue all things, then we end up rushing down all the dead-end avenues that our brethren busy themselves with.
For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him.
There is nothing not under our feet, nothing not brought into subjection to Christ, to Man, that is, to God revealed. Nothing, except the Father, who also happens to be the God who fills us with all of Himself.
How is the harlot the Bride?
Look in the mirror, see yourself as you are in outward appearance, the harlot. Then look again through those same eyes at those same eyes and see and hear Christ as yourself singing, “Daniel, I love you.” (Your own name, of course.) (I use the tune from Phantom of the Opera - “Christine, I love you.” Powerful!)
By those words in that way alone do we ever “Come out of her.”
There is no bride; there is only the harlot. Look at yourself! Come on, however much you think some other is false, how much more are you? Good Lord, how are you worth saving? What could possibly prompt Jesus to want to turn you from a dripping, filthy, polluted harlot into His Bride?
I speak this way only for two reasons, to magnify the wonder of Jesus drinking us into Himself AND and to bring fully into our hearts the horror of turning from the wonder of His life carrying all the dregs that we are utterly inside Himself and by turning away, see any other individual as false. Consider these words of Paul:
Now if their (natural Jews) fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
This is the passage used so wrongfully in our day to turn the eyes of God's people to a false fulfillment of a pretend Israel. Yet do you see what Paul is saying? Look at verse 30: they also may obtain mercy. Who are they? They happen to be the most wicked figures behind the Beast, those power players in today's world that are so filthy and wicked in themselves and who are bringing such hurt and grief upon the whole world.
And how do the most wicked people on earth obtain mercy? Through the mercy shown you.
Go right back up to that mirror, look at your eyes in the mirror as Christ Jesus
Do you see the judgment that mercy is? There is no condoning of deeds. There is no making light of cruelty. There is an utter separation between sin and person, placing the sin into God – that special room of God where God simply cannot remember anything that was placed there. And then by placing this one, created in the image of God, bound and crippled and lost, into the Lord Jesus Christ, into the pure and spotless Bride.
How could we ever sing individuals worse than Adolf Hitler into Christ if we stumble at Billy Graham? How could we sing life from the dead? What I'm trying to do is to show how ridiculous condemning God's people really is, how contrary to all that is Christ.
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth... And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where
The first will be last and the last first. God always does things backwards from human thinking. God begins with perfection and ends with perfecting. God begins with Symmorphos and ends with Nike. God begins with the manchild and ends up with a woman, a Bride for His Son.
To the human mind, the woman comes first, but that's not God's way. Here is God's way.
So Jesus said to them again,
This is the sending of the second witness of Christ; this is the commission to know Jesus-Sent. Notice the power of the mechanism the Lord Jesus placed into our mouths: If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.
The power to turn the harlot into the Bride, the power to call forth Jesus' woman unto Him is in your mouth.
What if Jesus had granted such power to the one who wrote that piece about Billy Graham? Then by that writer, Billy Graham would be lost along with the writer who condemned him (as you judge, you are judged), regardless of the mercy of Jesus.
Do you see why the second witness of Christ is clothed in sackcloth? Do you see why God gives the prophetic Word of Christ that closes out this present age of human folly into the mouths of those who are just like Himself, those who would see no hurt come to anyone?
Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.
And so, as we sing forth the woman into her place, we sing into her all those we, ourselves, would prefer to leave out first. And as they, those who most offend us, turn from Dregs into Joy inside our own hearts, our bride, our woman, our delight and rejoicing, then God will trust us to nourish His woman.
And we also lay down our lives for the brethren.